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Australia: New law to ban swords

Discussion in 'Legal' started by rick_reno, Mar 15, 2004.

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  1. rick_reno

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    Cricket bats are next.

    http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5478,8907485%5E2862,00.html

    New law to ban swords
    Peter Mickelburough, state politics reporter
    09mar04

    SWORDS will be outlawed from July under new laws to curb the growing use of the weapons in street brawls.

    Police Minister Andre Haermeyer said the ban would help police overcome a culture of young people arming themselves with swords.
    "For most people running around the street carrying swords there is absolutely no reason for them to be carrying those weapons," he said yesterday.

    From July, anyone found possessing or selling a sword without a permit will face up to six months' jail and fines of up to $12,000.

    Existing sword owners must surrender their weapons to police, sell them to a licensed dealer or apply to the Chief Commissioner for specific approval.

    Collectors and people with legitimate cultural, religious or military reasons to own swords will be exempted from the ban, but must store them under lock and key and have a burglar alarm.

    The sword ban follows a string of recent attacks and a regulatory impact statement undertaken by the State Government last year.

    Last week, a 13-year-old boy was arrested and charged after allegedly charging police with a sword near Castlemaine, in central Victoria.

    A 21-year-old man had his hand severed by a samurai sword in a confrontation between 40 men in the Fitzroy Gardens a fortnight ago -- the second brawl involving swords in 24 hours.

    Huy Huynh, 19, was chased from the Salt nightclub and hacked to death nearby in July 2002 by a mob using samurai swords and machetes.

    The new laws will make it illegal to sell swords to anyone who does not have a permit.

    Sword sellers will have to keep a register of buyers' details and make it available for police to inspect.

    Mr Haermeyer said groups such as highland dancers, historic re-enactment groups, bonafide collectors and people with family heirlooms could apply for an exemption from the licensing services branch of Victoria Police.

    "Legitimate sword owners understand the importance of ensuring that their swords do not fall into the wrong hands," he said.

    "The vast majority of the community would say, 'Look, there's no place for people just being able to go out there and buy these things and carry them around the street'."

    Mr Haermeyer said the exact definition of a sword under the new regulations was still being considered.

    He said machetes would remain a controlled weapon, requiring a person to have a legitimate reason for carrying them.

    The Government is also looking at bans on some other weapons, such as crossbows, and greater restriction on the sale of prohibited and regulated weapons at weekend markets.

    Mr Haermeyer warned that police would be actively hunting for knives and swords after being given new powers and 480 metal detectors late last year, allowing them to search people they reasonably suspected were carrying weapons.
     
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    Even when they run out of things to ban, they just keep on going.
     
  3. Feanaro

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    For the love of God... sheesh.
     
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    Next, they'll be banning all "sharp, pointy things" Down Under so that no one accidentally gets their eye poked out.
     
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    Please tell me this is satire.

    Does that mean guns are legal again? After all, weren't we told that guns were causing all the violence? It turns out it was the swords all along! The sneaky ba$*****!

    Well, the guns have maintained their innocence the whole time. Its great to hear they've been exonerated.

    316SS
     
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    But but but...

    Swords are an outmoded relic of a primitive and violent age! They have no place in a modern civilized society!
     
  7. MicroBalrog

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    Here's my legitimate use for a sword: I want one.
     
  8. Black Snowman

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    Historicly my ancestors used to regularly kill each other with: guns, cars,swords, knives, sticks, bows, snares, traps, rocks, bare hands, laws, angry mobs, axes, books, candle sticks, poison, cannon, water, religous dogma, rope, cats, and dogs.

    Better ban that water. Everyone by now is well aware of the dangers of dihydrogen oxide. #1 cause of shark attacks you know!
     
  9. P95Carry

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    Limit, regulate, ban and CONTROL ...... the latest buzz words. Quite incredible and as someone asked earlier .. ''what next''??

    Just how much pliable putty does the populace there have to be converted into - before a limit is reached? I really wonder.

    Hard to find words for this sorta stuff ... really!:mad:
     
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    And while we're at it, let's ban forks, too. Except for collectors, of course, and other people with "legitimate need" for them. I mean, spoons should be just fine for everyone. And, they make it easier to spoon in the liberal bull$$$$ when the politicians open their mouths.

    :rolleyes: :banghead: :cuss: :fire:
     
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    Not that I don't think that a ban on swords is futile and ridiculous, or that at some stage it won't happen in all Australian states. However as far as I can tell it would appear that this particular sword ban is only in regards to the state of Victoria, not Aus. as a whole (not yet anyway).
     
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    That one is about firearms inspections in Oz. This thread is about a ban on swords; plus, they're in different forums.

    We'll let this thread stand on its own.

    Thanks for the suggestion, though! :)
     
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