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Autozone Gun Issue

Discussion in 'Activism' started by dbp, Dec 4, 2012.

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  1. dbp

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    Thanks for the heads up. Just went to their website and left a comment for them informing them I'd be bringing my business to O-Reilly Auto parts in the future.
     
  3. BigHossCCF

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    Interesting...thanks for the heads up!

    MANY other places to choose from! :neener:
     
  4. bikerdoc

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    Obviously a managerial case of terminal cranial retitus morphed with seasonal Scrooge syndrome. :)
     
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    A travesty, but not an uncommon one. :(
     
  7. sleepyone

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    Here is the email I just sent:

    I will be taking my business elsewhere after learning that you fired Devin McLean from the York County, VA AutoZone for exercising his 2nd Amendment rights. He prevented a robbery and quite possibly prevented a double homicide. He should be presented with an award yet your response was to fire him. That is cowardly and anti-American. I will be going to O’Reilly in the future.

    Kind Regards,
     
  8. jon86

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    I used to work at an autozone and ever since, I've done my business with them. Guess I'll be shopping at Advance now.
     
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    Let their Board know that they're losing your business, even if you're not a shareholder!
     
  10. hso

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    It is important to keep the emails and letters brief and to the point while avoiding over the top rhetoric.

    Tell them exactly which competitor you'll be spending your money with.
    Explain that you'll continue to support that competitor until Mr. McLean is reinstated with back pay.
    Tell them that the manager has credited Mr. McLean with saving his life.
    Use Sheriff Diggs' quote to explain to them that AutoZone may be open to armed robbers, but it is closed as far as your concerned.

    Here's my message to them.

     
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  11. dbp

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    HSO has the response down perfectly. This was a decision based on corporate policy and sending threats and testy messages will not positively influence any corporation. They will at least sit up and take notice when revenue starts to go to competitors.

    This is all about perceived liability to AutoZone. I am sure that their corporate attorneys are advising them that they shouldn't listen to the objections. Their thinking is that they will give up some business to prevent a multi-million dollar lawsuit. Our real problem in this country is tort reform, but that's another topic for another day.
     
  12. Centurian22

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    Thank you for posting this. I did like Autozone before hearing this.

    HSO Well written as always.
     
  13. Bovice

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    I haven't stepped into an autozone for 2 and a half years, because they were selling me shoddy power steering pumps. Then they wouldn't refund my money.

    They know that I'm pissed already!
     
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    Without those "testy messages" they will have no idea what a drop in revenue is. A boycott cannot be successful without making it public and vocal.
     
  15. hso

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    mgmorden is correct.

    You have to tell them why their revenues are going to fall off (might be the quarterly report before they see they've lost business) instead of hoping they'll understand why they had a lower quarter than expected.

    Tell them you're going to pay your money to their competitors; tell them why you're going to do it; how long you're going to do it; what they can do to regain your business; and, lastly, tell them again you're sending "their" money to their competitors until they comply with your request.

    Here's their Facebook page for you to post the same sentiment.
    http://www.facebook.com/autozone?fref=ts
     
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    I don't have any use for FaceBook, but I will snail mail (or hand-deliver) a letter using HSO's guidelines to the manager of both of my local AutoZones...and will follow it up with a letter to Corporate.

    And I will share this with everyone I know (nearly every one of whom are gun owners). See if some of them will follow suit.
     
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    maybe the Sheriff can use a new deputy
     
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    "I am a very satisfied and long-time customer of Autozone and up until this point drove the extra 15 minutes past the local NAPA to do business with them for the last three vehicles I have owned. I've always driven decades-old junk and always do my own repairs, so I'll let Autozone determine how much business they've gotten from me already and stand to lose in the future (I'm 20, so I've got most of my cars and repairs ahead of me). I hope Autozone soon realizes that they fired this Airman for doing exactly what he was obligated by oath and professionally trained to do; defend against enemies foreign and domestic. He further exercised commendable restraint in giving the criminal a chance to leave, as he was well within his legal rights to shoot him. Since Autozone has decided to make their establishments known targets for criminals who endeavor to have a gun-sterile environment in which the only weapon present will be theirs, I will be taking my business to the much closer and more convenient NAPA. Autozone can regain myself and many more of their turned-off customers by simply giving Mr. McLean his job back and paying his backpay or, in the event that he acquires another job from someone who recognizes his courage and selflessness, issue him a profuse apology and reimburse him for the work hours the firing cost him. I look forward to hearing from Autozone in regard to this matter. "

    -My message to them. Posted this up to my FB and will tell everyone I know, all of whom are 2A supporters... and car owners, coincidentally. :neener:

    It's a real shame, because I always got my parts from Autozone because the quality control on the parts usually seemed to be tighter and the employees at my Autozone were always super people to deal with; not that some of the folks at the NAPA aren't great people either (there's one guy who works at the one closest to me who is a know-it-all jerk, but the rest of the people who work there are great) but having the combo of quality parts and quality service is always nice.
     
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    Now, does anyone know what would happen if a NAPA or Advance Auto Parts store employee did the same thing next month? (I hope they don't have to; I doubt many of us here can fabricate all our own auto parts.)
     
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    ^ Think about it.
    It is an opportunity for one of them to get more business from a competitor.
    A local bank has a big no guns signs. A smaller bank has a CCW Welcome sign. Guess who got my business.
     
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    Ok, I just saw the story, and it's nonesense. This is even worse than the Pizza Hut firing. (That driver carried a gun against company policy and wound up using it to save his life, and was fired for it.) This guy left it IN HIS CAR, and only went to get it when he absolutely had a situation in the store that justified deadly force.

    Using a "Zero Tolerance" policy is just a way to avoid having to make any managerial decisions.
     
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    Virginia Citizens Defense League will be organizing protests at a time to be announced. I will post details as available.

    To echo mljdeckard, The guys with suits and ties, who dont do the work, have no clue.
    Make me warm and fuzzy to see corporate types squirm.
     
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    Not to get flamed here, but some perspective is called for. Has anyone considered that, whether we like it or not, it is fully within Autozone's purview to have this strict no-guns policy and to stand by it.

    I'm betting Mr. McLean read and signed documents stating that he understood company policies and recognized that violation of policy could result in disciplinary action or dismissal. Such a document is nearly always part of the hiring process. Which of us would run a company without making our policies clear to employees and making sure they understand them?

    In the eyes of those of us who support the RKBA, and who commend Mr. McLean's brave action, Autozone executives have committed a blunder. Many supporters of gun rights claim that the action against Mr. McLean is unjust and that their no-guns policy is wrong-headed. We may argue that Autozone executives would have been far better served to make an exception in this case and made it clear why they were doing so. But that would carry risk, setting a precedent with which they would forever be dealing. (I might have suggested, had I been a board member, that Mr. McLean could be let go as a matter of policy but also be presented--as a private citizen rather than as an employee--an award for bravery and a commensurate monetary prize.)

    Our voices shouting "Boycott Autozone!" might make a little difference to Autozone's bottom line, but nothing's stopping antis from shifting all their business to Autozone in support of their anti-2A position. Our outspokenness may also give the antis another example to cite as so-called proof that gun owners are all dangerous kooks who wish to enforce their will on everyone, and that the 2A is out of step with modern, polite society. In the eyes of RKBA opponents, these same executives have rightly demonstrated the folly of thinking anyone can just use a gun to sort out life's problems.

    Here in Virginia, organized protests are being set up, and that's good in principle. But imagine the press response: "Gun-toting protestors assault innocent citizen who tried to enter an Autozone..." This won't actually happen, but facts don't matter anymore to the most of what we call "the press." All it takes is one anti to make such a claim.

    The fact that they're wrong doesn't change the fact that their voices get heard. Never mind the untruths; they have 1A rights just as we do.

    Write your letters, but be respectful. Shop elsewhere for auto parts and supplies; I will, too. Meantime, I wonder: What are this store's other employees and other Autozone employees doing to help their new hero? Are they still showing up for work unarmed, or are they standing with Mr. McLean, forcing store shutdowns by refusing to report for work until the action is reversed? And what are we as THR members doing to directly aid of our fellows who finds himself unemployed three weeks before Christmas?
     
  24. MedWheeler

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    Bikerdoc writes:

    to my:

    I think you missed the point. What I'm saying is that, if it should happen again at one of the businesses we all flock to, the outcome will likely be the same. Then, we'd all be pulling out of a business we just poured a larger sum of capital into and be headed off to "reward" yet another. If this incident had occurred at Advance, for instance, many of you would be flocking to AutoZone, not knowing of the existence of their identical policy.

    I'm all for boycotts when they can be effective, and even more so for effective communication with the "offending" corporation.
    These types of boycotts are, to me, just a little too "knee-jerk" in nature. A little more research and communication is needed regarding both the company or entity being boycotted, and the one(s) to whom you intend to gravitate.
     
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    Medwheeler: What you're missing is that seeing the result can affect the making of changing of policies. Even if Advance has a similar policy, Autozone has already enforced it in a silly scenario. If the other companies see an uptick in business due to such a boycott whilst Autozone sees a decrease, then they may well recognize that a number of their potential customers disagree with their policy, and with enough support they may change their policy.
     
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