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Background checks, my thoughts and concerns…

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by mbt2001, Jan 20, 2013.

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  1. mbt2001

    mbt2001 Member

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    This is something I have been saying to my "democrat" family members in the hope that the more educated they are the less spirited they are.

    I hear people throw out "background" checks and then wave their hand as if it is an extremely easy and simple solution that all of us our nuts for opposing. This, more or less, is my response. Not to change minds, but to bring up some serious potential wrinkles with that line of thought.

    I am not sure if you guys have thought about it, or need some ammo, or have a critique, but I would like to hear what you think.

     
  2. 1911 guy

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    Well thought out. Makes a logical case stating the problems with the system as proposed. It won't persuade an idealogue, but it makes a persuasive argument to one who isn't closed minded.
     
  3. mbt2001

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    Considering that most people are ignorant, and a lot of these laws coast in on what people THINK they know, I will take it.

    :D
     
  4. Skylerbone

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    Those Executive Orders, asking doctors and children to spy on and snitch out parents, those are why.

    Imagine that same divorce for a moment. Let's say there was abuse that was real and substantiated. The husband is listed as banned. The wife, living in fear for her safety has a hard time of things and visits her doctor. He listens, prescribes an anti-depressant to help her "relax and get through it".

    Two months later the wife is fine. She stops medication as things are looking up and the divorce is nearly finalized. She gets up for work, walks to her car and is threatened by her ex. She files for an RO, that piece of paper that keeps no one safe and decides it's time to buy a gun. She files for a permit and...is denied. Her dutiful physician has wisely contacted authorities about a mentally depressed patient. She is, thanks to a truly gray area, adjudged mentally defective by the Government. Now think about all those men and women in uniform being encouraged to put in for disability on the basis of PTSD. Could be a lot of people signing their ownership rights away if registration becomes law, not to mention the myriad of sinister implications as documented by history.
     
  5. we are not amused

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    While about half the guns I have bought were through a regular gun dealer, the other half were not.

    Some were bought at estate auctions, a couple were bought from private individuals at guns show, others were bought and or traded, with family members and close friends.

    mbt2001 is quite correct in the loopholes and problems with current background checks, including the fact that if you have a common name, you may well be denied a gun based solely upon the fact that somebody else with the same name committed a crime.

    That is where most of the silliness concerning the "no fly" list comes from. (which is about as stupid and unconstitutional as you can get)

    To be even marginally effective, universal background checks must include a gun registry, otherwise how will they know you didn't undergo a background check?
     
  6. ridgerunner1965

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    doctors being in charge o this chit is rediculous. i ve been goin to my doc for 3 or 4 years and ill bet he aint talked to me 10 min.how wud he know me?
     
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    Agreed.
     
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