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I carry a .380 Makarov in my front right pocket as a backup to my P220. My pocket would be empty if I don't carry the Makarov so I figured why not throw the Makarov in my pocket as a backup?

A reality check is needed I think guys, carry a reliable gun and extra rounds and you will be fine.
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Why carry reloads if the average fight is over in 2.7 rounds?
 
Not at all am I saying not to carry. Read my post, I said carry a reliable gun with extra rounds and that is plenty for the average Joe ccw. Do you really feel like your going to get in a situation where your going to need a BUG? One is none? I would be curious to where you guys who carry two guns live? As I said I live in Chicago and appearantly your more likely to get shot here than you are in Iraq. Not trying to start an argument and it seems some are getting upset at my take on this, I'll apologize up front if I offend anyone,but let's get real on this subject,
 
predator55,

we don't argue here, we discuss. i have my own opinion and it just happens to differ from yours. don't get upset.

murf
 
Predator55, here's my reasons: As I said, having been raised by a cop, I saw first hand that for them, carrying a BUG saved some lives. Also, I am a gunsmith, and know that guns will fail, and usually at the most inpportune times. Thus I do sometimes carry a BUG, and of the type statistically and historically least likely to malfunction when I most need it. Revolver. 100% reliability is most important to me with all my firearms, thus I have an AK <flame suit on> instead of an AR. My hunting rifle is a bolt action, though I've hunted with semi's in the past. (Including that AK.)

If you don't want to carry a second gun, that's fine. I respect that. You asked why some of us do, and we've given our reasons.
 
I have had a situation where I had to arm someone else, I used a r1 1911 and handed a Smith 36 to my wife. There's also the possibility that you will lose access to your primary so I will have a backup for myself, but to each their own
 
There's also the possibility that you could be asked to disarm by the property owner. Maybe you printed and someone complained, who knows. Carrying a BUG is a way to defuse the situation, by storing your main in your car, while remaining armed.
 
That's something that I would leave over I have no intention in breaking someone else's rules in their own land or store, I would just leave and take my time and money with me elsewhere.
 
I was thinking of when a customer complained but the owner otherwise didn't have a problem with you carrying.

But you do bring food for thought: What if they're the only business of that kind you can get to? Or what if their competitors have 'no-gun' signs?
 
But you do bring food for thought: What if they're the only business of that kind you can get to? Or what if their competitors have 'no-gun' signs?
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Where in the world do you live? Here in Mountain View, Arkansas (pop. 2,760) we have multiple banks, restaurants, grocery stores, hardware stores, automobile dealers and repair shops and so on.
 
Barry the Bear said:
Texas signs must have specific wording to have the force of law. If there is just a generic no guns sign I ignore it. And as always no one will know I even carry.
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I thought you said you had a problem braking someone else's rules in their land or store.

Now it seems you only care if it's illegal.
 
Vern Humphrey said:
Then you should apply the principle of Schroedinger's Cat -- there is no sign, only a potential sign.:p
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I'm in Bryan, Ohio, population 9,000. There is only 1 laundromat and it's posted.

While I have my own washer and dryer, I can imagine someone who can't go to a laundromat in Defiance due to low income, or disability, or some other thing. Such a person would have to face the decision to disarm or risk criminal charges just so they can clean their clothes. If for whatever reason someone finds themselves in a pinch like that, maybe a BUG would be an option for them.

Anyway this isn't the thread topic and I don't intend to hyjack. Food for thought is all :)
 
There is nothing wrong with a CCW permittee carrying a BUG and I've done it many times even though the extra weight and bulk often is the reason when I don't do it. Every firearm has the potential to malfunction/break and a BUG offers extra piece of mind to those willing to carry the extra weight/bulk.
 
Om said:
I thought you said you had a problem braking someone else's rules in their land or store.

Now it seems you only care if it's illegal.
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isn't that the only thing most care about? If someone unlikely sees my gun and ask me to leave and I dont I am refactoring commuting a crime in my state. But if it's just a red line going on through a pic of a gun and no one has seen me I ignore it .
 
I very seldom carry a back up. Going to Philadelphia? I carry a back up. G42 ankle holster inside left leg.
You just never know in Philly.
 
I don't own or carry a BUG at this moment. But I do carry a knife on my weak side, specifically as an alternate weapon, in case I need a persuader while my strong hand is otherwise engaged and cannot get to my gun. Does that make me paranoid or prepared in your book? I don't honestly care but I am curious where reasonably prepared meets paranoid in your world.

Certain family members used to laugh at me for keeping an abundant supply of drinking water, non-perishable food and a way to cook said food. In October 2015 the City of Columbia, SC was hit with a 1,000 year flood event that took out our municipal water supply and power. Other than not being able to take a hot shower for a few days I was very comfortable. Some of those who laughed at me, not so much. Being prepared makes ME rest easy. I don't care what you think or do.
 
I'm bass ackwarks... I don't even carry a primary in the most dangerous placed I go.

(Stupid Nanny states and general lack of reciprocity around the Northeast ensures that only criminals and cops carry).
 
I never carry more than 1 on my body, but in summer I carry a Glock 43. But my Glock 23 "jeep gun" remains in the glove box, just cause I like to have a more powerful option with a longer barrel and more rounds if things get REALLY stupid.
 
Predator55 said:
Unless you guys are LEO which a backup is fine, but as a average Joe with a ccw why do you need to carry a backup? Where do you guys live that you need to have two guns? The chance that you will even need to draw your weapon are low and even lower that you will need a second gun. can someone explain the need for an extra gun? maybe I'm missing something.
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I'm starting wonder, with your posts, exactly why it is you are on THR.

A second gun is good for malfunctions to the primary, inaccessibility to the primary, loss of possession or function of the primary during use, arming another person who didn't bring their own, etc.

If you don't want to carry a BUG, don't. Problem solved.

Predator55 said:
Like I stated in my post, I understand the need for LEO and even retired LEO's, Hard to break the habit. But, for the average Joe with ccw where do you guys live that you,need to carry a bug? I know plenty of cops who have never pulled their gun in their entire career and we are talking Chicago. The chance that the a ccw holder will ever pull their pistol is minute and if you are unfortunate enough to have to pull it the stats say the fight is over in 2.7 rounds. I hear all these Rambos talking about getting Ina shoot out with multiple attackers. Me thinks too many are watching to many die hard movies. A reality check is needed I think guys, carry a reliable gun and extra rounds and you will be fine. I know Jim Yeager is big on two guns but I think there is way to much paranoia out there. I live in Chicago guys, and one gun is plenty. Just carry extra mags or speed stripes.
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Do you carry a gun?

Me thinks you post an awful lot doing nothing but insulting gun owners and gun carriers while telling them they need fewer guns and to not carry certain guns, and I am wondering why you keep doing that.
 
Predator55 said:
Unless you guys are LEO which a backup is fine, but as a average Joe with a ccw why do you need to carry a backup? Where do you guys live that you need to have two guns? The chance that you will even need to draw your weapon are low and even lower that you will need a second gun. can someone explain the need for an extra gun? maybe I'm missing something.
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Never needing a BUG is a good thing. I don't know why you're talking it down.
 
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