Hoplophile
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- Dec 23, 2007
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Wednesday: I call to inform him I'm having a rifle transferred to him. Out of curiosity, I ask him what he has in stock. I ask him if he has any AK type rifles. He says no, and I ask him if he has any Saigas, and he politely informs me that Saigas explode and are unsafe to fire. Okay, fine. I'm not going to argue.
Friday: Rifle arrives at FFL.
Okay, here we need an explanation: I'm a college student. I live in Student Housing, off campus, not owned by the college. It's private. It's arranged such that everything, utilities included, is included in the rent. College students have two addresses: Their hometown address, where they stay during breaks, and their school address. There are no utility bills here and my driver's license is from my hometown.
Sunday: I drive 40 minutes to sign my papers (I get lost a lot). Owner repeatedly asks me for my CCW. I inform him that I am 19 and do not have a CCW, and thusly must, per Florida law, wait three days after signing. This does not stop him from asking for my CCW again. I go in and he asks me if I'm here for the "romanian thing or whatever". I say yes, and fill out the paperwork, making the Ultimate FFL Transfer Mistake: I put my school residence on the paperwork. It did not match my driver's license. Instantly, I was flagged as a wanted terrorist, placed on the no-fly list, wiretapped, and actually told to leave.
I drive home and ask for a copy of my lease, the ONLY thing I can get out of the apartment staff. I call FFL and inform him that I cannot present him with a utility bill. He says that won't work, and I ask if I can simply go get a new license. He tells me to call another FFL, because he "doesn't know what's up with why I have two addresses", a clear sign of being an anti-American flag burner who routinely melts down 1911s. He thusly had my rifle (for which I paid quite a chunk of money for) and refused to do business with me. That made me nervous.
To his credit, the very next day, I found a slightly more expensive FFL and asked him to transfer the rifle there. It was there that very afternoon, for which I'm thankful. I picked the rifle up and I've enjoyed it thoroughly since. Whether he just wanted to dump it off on someone else ASAP or he wanted to make up for being unable to render me a service is another matter.
Do I understand how pissy the ATF is? Yes, I do. I don't want to get anyone in trouble, but he lives in a college town, he should know why I have two addresses. I'm apparently not allowed to change my address on the form, so I understand that too. Regardless, I felt treated like a criminal. I get that he wanted to cover his own ass, but he does so at the expense of someone who specifically chose him on the advice of friends. Also, to refuse to deal with me kind of made me wonder if I'd be allowed to take possession of my rifle. The idea of having a completely clean record and STILL being denied a rifle is sort of frightening, isn't it? I haven't got so much as a speeding ticket on my record! He apparently told the story to the new FFL, who was a bit more understanding.
I acknowledge that it may have been I who was wrong, but I'm not sure. If I wasn't in the wrong here, I'll tell others who it was, but I won't cost the man business if I was truly the jerk in this situation.
Judge me, THR. Spare me no flame, but tell me if I'm wrong here.
Friday: Rifle arrives at FFL.
Okay, here we need an explanation: I'm a college student. I live in Student Housing, off campus, not owned by the college. It's private. It's arranged such that everything, utilities included, is included in the rent. College students have two addresses: Their hometown address, where they stay during breaks, and their school address. There are no utility bills here and my driver's license is from my hometown.
Sunday: I drive 40 minutes to sign my papers (I get lost a lot). Owner repeatedly asks me for my CCW. I inform him that I am 19 and do not have a CCW, and thusly must, per Florida law, wait three days after signing. This does not stop him from asking for my CCW again. I go in and he asks me if I'm here for the "romanian thing or whatever". I say yes, and fill out the paperwork, making the Ultimate FFL Transfer Mistake: I put my school residence on the paperwork. It did not match my driver's license. Instantly, I was flagged as a wanted terrorist, placed on the no-fly list, wiretapped, and actually told to leave.
I drive home and ask for a copy of my lease, the ONLY thing I can get out of the apartment staff. I call FFL and inform him that I cannot present him with a utility bill. He says that won't work, and I ask if I can simply go get a new license. He tells me to call another FFL, because he "doesn't know what's up with why I have two addresses", a clear sign of being an anti-American flag burner who routinely melts down 1911s. He thusly had my rifle (for which I paid quite a chunk of money for) and refused to do business with me. That made me nervous.
To his credit, the very next day, I found a slightly more expensive FFL and asked him to transfer the rifle there. It was there that very afternoon, for which I'm thankful. I picked the rifle up and I've enjoyed it thoroughly since. Whether he just wanted to dump it off on someone else ASAP or he wanted to make up for being unable to render me a service is another matter.
Do I understand how pissy the ATF is? Yes, I do. I don't want to get anyone in trouble, but he lives in a college town, he should know why I have two addresses. I'm apparently not allowed to change my address on the form, so I understand that too. Regardless, I felt treated like a criminal. I get that he wanted to cover his own ass, but he does so at the expense of someone who specifically chose him on the advice of friends. Also, to refuse to deal with me kind of made me wonder if I'd be allowed to take possession of my rifle. The idea of having a completely clean record and STILL being denied a rifle is sort of frightening, isn't it? I haven't got so much as a speeding ticket on my record! He apparently told the story to the new FFL, who was a bit more understanding.
I acknowledge that it may have been I who was wrong, but I'm not sure. If I wasn't in the wrong here, I'll tell others who it was, but I won't cost the man business if I was truly the jerk in this situation.
Judge me, THR. Spare me no flame, but tell me if I'm wrong here.
