Bad news. Hunter loses it, kills five, wounds others

[hillbilly]

Wisconsin Deer stand murders....5 dead, 3 wounded

http://www.kstp.com/article/stories/S4381.html?cat=1

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BREAKING NEWS:
Five murdered, three wounded in shootings

Updated: 11/21/2004 06:10:03 PM



EXELAND, Wis. -?Five people are dead and three injured in a shooting incident that apparently began over a hunting dispute in western Wisconsin.

The confrontation began around noon in?a rural area southwestern Sawyer County. Authorities said a hunting party returning to their deer shack reported seeing a hunter unknown to them occupying their tree stand. That led to a shooting.

One of the shooting victims used a walkie talkie to radio back to the deer shack for help. When the victim's hunting partners came to the scene, they were also shot.

Sawyer County was in a virtual lockdown as authorities searched for the gunman. One suspect was eventually taken into custody around 5:15 p.m.

The suspect's name has not been released.

Officials at Lakeview Medical Center in Rice Lake said they have treated at least three gunshot victims.?They said one of the victims was transported to a hospital in Marshfield, WI. Another victim is in critical condition and is undergoing surgery. The third victim is in fair condition in the intensive care unit.

Watch 5 EYEWITNESS NEWS for updates on this breaking news story.

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[Preacherman]

Ye gods... shot over a dispute about a deer stand? And we hunters laught at inner-city kids killing each other over shoes, or a boom-box? I guess some of us are just as stupid...

 

[Standing Wolf]

I guess some of us are just as stupid.

That or dumber: one doesn't expect much of juvenile delinquents.

 

[Atticus]

Sounds more like one wakco opened fire on the guys who caught him trespassing.
Not to be flippant on a serious and sad event...but I didn't realize that a "deer rifle" could be used to kill multiple people....was he using an AK?

 

[hillbilly]

According to posts where I orginally found it, the shooter is allegedly a Hmong man from Minneapolis, and was using an SKS.

But I haven't found any official links for that info.

hillbilly

 

[PromptCritical]

So, when does the knee-jerking start. I was expecting "sniper-rifle" outcries. If it was an SKS, some ignorant reporter will call it an "assault weapon" and we'll have to listen to that crap again. And then there's the age-old story about the inbred, mouth-breathing, redneck hunters.

Ok, Im done now...

 

[Daedalus]

Animal rights extremist maybe?

 

[The Grand Inquisitor]

It was probably just some kook who wanted to use his weapon to kill things with....whichever kind of animal he obviously didn't care.

 

[4v50 Gary]

Getting into a fight for a deer is bad enough but to shoot one another over a treestand? Poor sportsmen is an understatement.

 

[orangeninja]

How could you shoot so many people with High Powered Rifles and not get hit?

 

[hed_spase]

They just showed a teaser for tonights news. They flashed a pic of the rifle used. It was an SKS. This is not good.

 

[Bigjake]

Daedalus,

That thought had also crossed my mind... domestic terrorists

 

[Greg L]

Daedalus,

My first thought too while waiting for the thread to open, some sort of extreme PETA/ELF type.

Not good any way that it went down .

 

[rick_reno]

What insanity!

 

[Aguila Blanca]

How not to hunt

Don't know if this belongs under "Hunting" or "Roundtable," but I felt this was more appropriate:

http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/11/21/wisconsin.shootings/index.html

Five hunters killed in Wisconsin woods

Police: Dispute over deer stand apparently led to shootings

Sunday, November 21, 2004 Posted: 8:34 PM EST (0134 GMT)

(CNN) -- Sheriff's deputies were investigating the killings of five hunters Sunday in northwestern Wisconsin, apparently sparked by a hunting dispute that turned violent.

Three others were wounded, said Julie Veness, an emergency medical technician in Exeland, Wisconsin.

Saturday was the opening of the nine-day deer season, and the shooting appeared to stem from a dispute over land in the heavily wooded area, Veness said.

"Apparently, the person was asked to leave and get out of his deer stand, and he didn't take it very well and he fired away at them," she said.

A state police official said a man wanted in connection with the shootings has been arrested, but no details were immediately available. The Sawyer County Sheriff's Department, which is investigating the killings, had no comment.

Jennifer Greshowak, a spokeswoman for Lakeview Medical Center in Rice Lake, said three wounded men from the same hunting party were brought to that facility after suffering gunshot wounds. One of the three was transferred to a hospital in nearby Marshfield; one was in surgery Sunday afternoon, while the third was in intensive care, she said.

Veness said the killings have shocked Exeland, a village of 219 people.

"It just doesn't happen in this neck of the woods," she said. "We don't expect any of this to happen."

 

[Preacherman]

Duplicate threads merged.

 

[TrapperReady]

Sad. Some people are just wired wrong.

While I'm sure this one will get dissected every which way, from what kind of gun was he using, to what's the best way to respond, etc, etc...

In the midst of this, please take a couple moments to pray for those hunters and their families affected by this event.

 

[Dbl0Kevin]

The spin starts already. I just heard on FOX News in the blurb them call it an "automatic weapon". Then on the News ALERT for Geraldo he said "the man took out an assault rifle and killed 5".

Hold on to your hats gentlemen.

 

[WingZero]

I just watched the Geraldo coverage of the story, and the only thing that is known......... is that the guy who killed those people was trespassing on private property, and is vietnamese.

 

[2nd Amendment]

There are some true nuts out there who have nothing to do with the PETA loons. A few years back I found three people in stands on a piece of my property, different locations. Two left quietly, even apologetically. The third decided to argue, then point his shotgun at me. I really thought the crazy SOB was going to pull the trigger.

I shouldered my 30-30(I wasn't intending to hunt and brought the rifle "just in case", not sure of what "just in case" might cover) and told him mine was a lot more accurate than his probably was and he could either leave or neither one of us would. He thought on it a while(yeah, he actually sat and debated the proposition) then packed it in. And before anyone yells at me for not just leaving, there was 70+ yards of clear sight around that tree in every direction. I didn't see retreat as anywhere near a viable option with this clown at my back.

This particular piece of property is prime hunting ground for this area(though small) and over the years my dad and I have caught drunks, people stoned out of their minds, people with lousy attitudes and even people who stood there and argued with us that THEY owned it. So while it might be an anti-hunting type I'll just say again, there are some real freaks out there wearing camo and calling themselves hunters. *sigh* Either way, this is going to suck.

 

[wintermute76]

I just saw it on Channel 11, what a shame. I was just saying last weekend, well no one got shot this season. :banghead:

Reporter called it a semi-automatic assault weapon

 

[Ryder]

I hear John Kerry hunts. Nawwwww, couldn't have been.

Mostly gave it up myself several years ago. After about 30 years of hunting I perceived things just got freaky and seemed to get increasingly worse year by year. Do hunters have a lower average IQ than the general population? I don't know for sure but just try driving before daylight during the season and see how many of these brain surgeons can figure out how to work a dimmer switch.

Many of them are not Second Amendment supporters and wouldn't care any more about losing their firearms rights than if you were to confiscate their chinese checkers or dominos set. It's a mistake to align yourself with them by the simple fact that they own a gun. John Kerry owns a gun too. How much do you have in common with him?

Many of my best friends hunt and even much of my family. None have ever mentioned a care for gun rights. I still take my chances to venture out once a year just to reminisce with nature but it's still frustrating to have to deal with the unethical slobs (thieves, liars, and vandals) infesting the woods these days.

 

[scromp]

The third decided to argue, then point his shotgun at me. I really thought the crazy SOB was going to pull the trigger.

I shouldered my 30-30 (and didn't shoot him.)

Wow, you have some serious restraint. I think I'd have popped him at that point. Pointing a gun at me in anger = sorry pal, the jury's on my side.

 

[Phantom Warrior]

Not a bad idea to have a sidearm even when hunting. In MN you don't even need a carry permit if you are out hunting.

I ended up needing mine this year, to put down a deer. AFTER my friend dropped it on the run with his 1911...(thanks buddy)

 

[campergeek]

I'm anxious to hear more about the shooter - and the shooting. From the reports posted here it sounds like one trespasser killed 5 and wounded 3 while squatting in a deer stand. Did none of the victims return fire? In a group of deer hunters surely they had at least one accurate rifle between them, and on their own land surely they could find someplace to return fire from cover. I'm no tactician, but it sounds as if something is missing in the story - that or the shooter was there with a plan to take out a bunch of people. Otherwise the situation doesn't seem right with odds of 1 against 8+.

Perhaps someone here has info that can clear up my confusion.