Badger Ordnance Trigger Guard and Detachable Magazine Assembly

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deolexrex,

It's my experience that there are none better. They center the round into the chamber and I have not had any failures with this system during hard and abusive use.

They are a combat proven system with the most recent adoption by the USMC for the M40A3 SWS.

The magazines are made by AI (Accuracy International) and they too are excellent.

LP
 
nbkky71,

You are correct on the DD Ross Trigger guard and floor plate. That is the original spec. After 2001 several were built with the Badger Ordinance M4 trigger guard and hinged floorplate.

To my understanding approx 6 months ago the Badger M5 detachable magazine system became the latest "mod". Whether it becomes a permenant change to the spec, I haven't a clue.

My experience with the Badger M5 detachable is on another rifle, my M40A3 has the standard Badger M4 hinged floorplate/guard.

LP
 
Badger mags?

So are these mags and system different than standard M1A mags?
 
The M5 uses AI mags...which are the industry standard for mags used in bolt actions.

You should also check out VBull mag system as well. They also use AI mags and the VBull is offered in Remington and Savage actions.
 
If you have a Remington, I think that the AICS is MUCH better value for the money since you're getting a whole lot more for less than twice the cost. I can see the appeal of the BO trigger guard and magazine if your objective is to reduce the overall weight of the rifle though (compared to the AICS). One of the complaints I have about the AI magazines in .308 is that they spot weld a steel plate inside the magazine at the front seam which is completely redundant and annoying since it reduces the COL by about 3/16". I ended up drilling out the spot welds, removing the plates, welding up the holes and repainting the magazines ... MUCH better!!

Anyway, there's a competitor that shoots at the range where I shoot and he has the BO upgrade shown in the OP's link. He seems to like it.

:)
 
hoser45 said:
So M5 (A1 mags) are not the same as M1A mags?
You misread. AI, as in Accuracy International. Not A-one. AI magazines are made in England by Accuracy International, a sniper rifle company, and are nothing like M1 Garand magazines.
 
i couldn't agree more with you, zak. i can't count the number of times i accidently pressed the mag release on my m5. the surgeon looks to have solved that problem.
 
pdd614 said:
i couldn't agree more with you, zak. i can't count the number of times i accidently pressed the mag release on my m5. the surgeon looks to have solved that problem.

That Badger magazine release does seem to stick out way past the bottom of the 5 round magazine. If I had one of those I'd order some 10 round AI magazines so that I wouldn't accidentally press the mag release. That said, I would wonder about the leverage of the Surgeon magazine release. It's possible that they went with a lighter spring compared to the Badger and AICS ... I would think that they'd have to in order to compensate for the shorter lever. I haven't had any problems with the mag release (accidental operation) on either of my AICS stocks with 5 or 10 round magazines.

Here's what I mean about the 10-round AI magazine with the Badger setup ... it'd be hard to accidentally drop the magazine with this set up.

BO_10rnd.jpg


:)
 
you're right about the 10 rounders. but i believe the surgeon is very wide, so maybe leverage isn't a problem.
 
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