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meanmrmustard...

Just because you say it doesn't make it true. When someone pointed out my mistake I indicated that I made a mistake. It wasn;t left at that. It was a continual barrage, one after the other ..and if you think you have more experience than me ...then you can think whatever you want..

YOUR behavior with another select few has been "trollish", improper and derogatory. If anyone follows the thread FROM THE START...it is clear how many shots were fire across the bow before I fired back. It wasn't about metallurgy. It was plain and simple arrogance.
 
I don't think anyone had the intention of chasing you off. If you reread your own posts, sir, you'll see that your opinions we respectfully disagreed with.

Your views and procedures are just that, yours. Hold that truth to be more than self evident.

If you feel I am not indicative of a true High Road member, I implore you to browse my posts and threads. It'll take some time, but I assure you that you will find I'm not what you make me to be. We refrain from attacking arguers here, but debating is fair game if kept in the Rules parameter. Don't trust that? Ask a mod to review this thread. I'm sure what folks have said regarding your OP is within limits.

I am a minority: I applaud your opinion and right to have one. I even commend your ability to hold steadfast to your opinions, when scores of fellow members disagree. However, I do not agree with berating those who do not hold your views as fact, saying others are or may be stupid, implied or otherwise, and accusing us of, well as middle school as it sounds, picking on you. I'm also one to tell you about it personally.

If you feel debased or disrespected, I implore you to PM me for a thoughtful, FACTUAL discussion centered around your claims regarding your process, my demeanor, and how to have a High Road conversation.
 
Just because you say it doesn't make it true. When someone pointed out my mistake I indicated that I made a mistake. It wasn;t left at that. It was a continual barrage, one after the other ..and if you think you have more experience than me ...then you can think whatever you want..

YOUR behavior with another select few has been "trollish", improper and derogatory. If anyone follows the thread FROM THE START...it is clear how many shots were fire across the bow before I fired back. It wasn't about metallurgy. It was plain and simple arrogance.
A dozen or more people tell you your idea is flawed.

That's not a barrage; that's a consensus.

What you call arrogance, is what inexperienced people call higher knowledge. People were doomed as soon as they disagreed. That's indicative of this thread. As stated, you may have your views. What do I know.

For future reference: When you behave this way, folks take note, and tend to let you burn your bridges alone.
 
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"I tend to be a bit over the top with cleaning...but I am experimenting now a bit with non-cleaning.

so initially, I was doing this putting approx. 150 round through and then re0clean, re-lube, re-bake.

Now, I am going to get at least 500-600 rounds (or more) before cleaning again. The Glock 19 Gen 4 now has about 300 rounds since last cleaning....."



Something positive that caught my attention is that the OP is letting on that he is re-assessing his cleaning obsession....Trying to clean less compulsively, which is why he is experimenting with new lubing processes that might prolong protection.
 
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A dozen or more people tell you your idea is flawed

actually its more like 5 or 6 very loud people - who have not provided anything in the way of proof of flaw. Some just said "waste of time". That is not proof of flaw. That is uneducated opinion.

That's not a barrage; that's a consensus
a bunch of people yelling the world is flat may be a consensus but again, repeating opinions over and over does not make it any more true.

What you call arrogance, is what inexperienced people call higher knowledge
First, I know the definition and behavioral indications of arrogance. If you think what you and some others have posted is higher knowledge...whew...thank you for the laugh.

People were doomed as soon as they disagreed

Not true at all so again you twist the truth to suit your own desire to be right.

Everything was fine until post #4 - RCmodel - you call his post higher knowledge ? He calls applying "magic froglube" "voodoo science". That was good natured debate or was that derogatory ?

Then some decent posts but within 5 or 6 posts later, two "waste of time and energy". Okay..thats an opinion. No fact. No higher knowledge. Just opinion. Not see the refuting of my method yet.

I had no issue with the humorous posts about cookies, baking, etc...very good natured.

Someone mentions my metal oil mistake. I quickly respond, I misspoke. I am not ignorant. I know steel is not porous. And that's when all went south. people would not let it go.

Then a few more "No benefit, waste of time" Like their word comes from on high....THATS is the definition of a troll. On other boards we call them thread-crappers. People who add nothing but crap on a thread.

Now in this time there have also been a number of positive posts. Some people appreciated, some people joked, but they were civil.

But the ones that were negative were so much so even Tarakian posted this

Wow, lots of responses that don't really take the "High Road". OP is not dissing anyone's lube method (or their grandfather's), but a lot of people seem to be willing to trash the method he is trying even though they have never tried it themselves. I see a fellow shooter trying to share something that is working for him. Don't like the idea, move on and keep using what works for you, or start your own thread sharing your method.

so it wasn't just me that could see some people making...you know what of themselves.

Next thing I know, CWL, 460 Kodiak, Walt and you, meanmrmustard went into attack mode. Not my process or the product. ME. It was personal - picking apart everything I said.

Well, like we say in the other forum, if attacked, defend - I tried evade but it did not help. I tried to close the negative several times to no avail.

So before you go pointing fingers, have a drink of reality. Anyone with "higher knowledge" can see who attacked whom and whose behavior precipitated where we are now.
 
actually its more like 5 or 6 very loud people - who have not provided anything in the way of proof of flaw. Some just said "waste of time". That is not proof of flaw. That is uneducated opinion.


a bunch of people yelling the world is flat may be a consensus but again, repeating opinions over and over does not make it any more true.


First, I know the definition and behavioral indications of arrogance. If you think what you and some others have posted is higher knowledge...whew...thank you for the laugh.



Not true at all so again you twist the truth to suit your own desire to be right.

Everything was fine until post #4 - RCmodel - you call his post higher knowledge ? He calls applying "magic froglube" "voodoo science". That was good natured debate or was that derogatory ?

Then some decent posts but within 5 or 6 posts later, two "waste of time and energy". Okay..thats an opinion. No fact. No higher knowledge. Just opinion. Not see the refuting of my method yet.

I had no issue with the humorous posts about cookies, baking, etc...very good natured.

Someone mentions my metal oil mistake. I quickly respond, I misspoke. I am not ignorant. I know steel is not porous. And that's when all went south. people would not let it go.

Then a few more "No benefit, waste of time" Like their word comes from on high....THATS is the definition of a troll. On other boards we call them thread-crappers. People who add nothing but crap on a thread.

Now in this time there have also been a number of positive posts. Some people appreciated, some people joked, but they were civil.

But the ones that were negative were so much so even Tarakian posted this



so it wasn't just me that could see some people making...you know what of themselves.

Next thing I know, CWL, 460 Kodiak, Walt and you, meanmrmustard went into attack mode. Not my process or the product. ME. It was personal - picking apart everything I said.

Well, like we say in the other forum, if attacked, defend - I tried evade but it did not help. I tried to close the negative several times to no avail.

So before you go pointing fingers, have a drink of reality. Anyone with "higher knowledge" can see who attacked whom and whose behavior precipitated where we are now.
All I have further to say to you, sir, is reread Post #22, and the prior 21 posts leading up to it.

Then, pour me a glass of that "reality" you're drinking. Betting its sour.
 
You folks make it hard for members to share there ideas and experiences.
I don't believe the poster deserved this type of response to what he thought was a good process of gun maintenance . (The High Road?)
 
You folks make it hard for members to share there ideas and experiences.
I don't believe the poster deserved this type of response
First off, how? Because I've reread this thing three times now, and it doesn't get venomous or off topic till post #22.

If you figure the OP didn't deserve to be disagreed with, then how exactly is a forum conducted? Do we not question everything as human beings for higher learning and the pursuit of logic?

After all this, I still see no reason to pop a gun in the oven. So the point is moot.
 
I for one appreciate your posts, Ohbythebay, and hope this thread doesn't color your future decisions to share your experiences.
 
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