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Ball size for 1849 Pocket

Discussion in 'Blackpowder' started by CraigC, Jan 21, 2013.

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  1. CraigC
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    I've determined that the .310's I already had are too small for my new Uberti 1849 Pocket model. Should I go for .315's, .320's or .321's?
     
  2. Skinny 1950

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    I am using a .319 mold but they measure at .320 they work in an original 1849 and a Armi San Paolo 1848 Baby Dragoon.31 cal. haven't tried them in a modern Uberti but they would probably work fine.
    I have a Uberti 1851 made in 2010 and am really impressed with the over all quality the grips are really fine.
    I had the Baby Dragoon at the range and it clocked 720 Ft./Sec....fun little gun.
     
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  3. unknwn

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    My supplier has .323" cast balls available for me.
    I'll find out how stiff they are to stuff with the onboard rammer when my revolver shows up Wednesday.
     
  4. Fingers McGee

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    IME, Uberti .31 cal pocket models work best with .323 balls. Sometimes you can get by with .321s and .319s sometimes roll out of the chamber
     
  5. kwhi43@kc.rr.com

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    "0" Buckshot runs .320-.323. It's what I use in all my 32's and my 1849
    Baby Dragroon.
     
  6. kBob

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    kwhi,

    Do you know of a current source for bags of Single 0 buck?

    Only place I found on line is proud of their hardness. It is geting expensive t salvage shot drom shot shells! For that matter it is getting hard to find Single 0 shells to cut up.

    Last show I attended I spent some time digging through a "Shotshells $0.25 each" box and found not a one.....though I did score three factory BRI sabot slugs in 12 gauge and a 20 guage foster all for a buck. Jimminey, I am starting to sound like Levi.

    -kBob
     
  7. J-Bar

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    http://www.ballisticproducts.com/Lead-Buckshot/products/65/
     
  8. kBob

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    J-Bar,

    "It is alloyed with 6% antimony for extra hardness."

    That would be the one I found and commented on. I am concerned that the "extra hardness" might be ruough on the loading lever and linkages, even more so on the Remington .31 than the Colt.

    Might be that or nothing though for bags of shot.

    -kBob
     
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    I use Double Ought Buckshot (.330") and my simple homemade loading press. Works great!
     
  10. kBob

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    Smokin' Joe,

    can you give us a parts list for that jewel and som instructions for assembling that top plate with the hex drive bolt heads?

    Please?

    Pretty please with with sugar on top?

    I will be passing an ACE hardware this afternoon.......

    -kBob
     
  11. J-Bar

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    I use their 0000 buck (about .382) in my 1851 Uberti Navy, loading with the rammer on the gun, and have no problems. I don't have an 1849. The shorter rammer might need a "cheater" on it to seat the ball comfortably, but it would surprise me if it did not work ok. If they work, it is pretty cheap ammo. If they don't work, you could melt them down into bullets for cartridges, or sell them to someone who can and get some of your money back. It's not much to risk.
     
  12. CraigC
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    I may take the sixgun to DGW and see if their .321's will work.
     
  13. kwhi43@kc.rr.com

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    I bought 50 5lb. Boxes of Hornady for 9.00 a box. Right after they stopped
    Making them. There are 700 balls in a box. They are 3% hard. That's 97%
    Pure lead. I posted on this Fourm and others when they still had them you
    Could buy. Also shipping was included. This was about a year ago. I don't know
    Of a source except what's been posted. I really think the 6% will work for you.
     
  14. Smokin'Joe

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    Simple Cylinder Reloader

    kBob,

    An exact parts list depends on the cylinder you are loading. Get a heavy flat washer to cover the face of the cylinder and a bolt to fit through the cylinder and the washer. It's very important to cushion the rear of the cylinder with a wooden donut, a plastic plumbing fitting or some such thing. Follow the photos and I think you can see what I did. If you use a flat washer only remember to RAM THE BALLS HOME with the rammer on the gun before shooting! Since my Wells Fargo model has no rammer I needed to add extenders to seat the balls on top of the powder. The hardest part of this is locating the position of the extenders properly. First remove the nipples on the cylinder and then attach the flat washer to the face of the cylinder with the bolt and nut. Use a sharp scribe and reach through the nipple hole and mark each chamber location on the washer. Drill and tap holes and install Allen Head screws of the appropriate size to fit into each chamber. For the Wells Fargo I think they were size 10X24. Finally I got a small round grinding stone on a Dremel tool and recessed the Allen Head screw tops to give a nice round contour to the extenders. Load the balls by tightening the bolt and nut with wrenches. The nice lead foreskin shows the balls seated properly.

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  15. CraigC
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    That's a slick setup!
     
  16. kBob

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    $3.22 and five minutes at Ace this after noon. Two washers, 8mm bolt, 8mm nut, rubber washer.

    I may look for something sturdier, at least thicker washers, at Lowe's later in the week..... though I may have somethig in the junk box that will work or atleast re enforce the existing washers.

    Must try it out tomorrow on my little brass '49.

    -kBob
     
  17. CraigC
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    Haven't shot it yet but it looks like the .320's I got from Buffalo Arms are going to work.
     
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    Heck of an invention! I like it!
    Simple to make, all parts readily available, and no one's charging you $12.99 shipping and handling!
    Good job!
     
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