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Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by bikerdoc, Feb 17, 2009.

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  1. bikerdoc

    bikerdoc Moderator Staff Member

    Jan 8, 2008
    Southern Virginia
    Picked this up from the WeTheArmed webb site (Credit to gundoctor)

    Federal gun ban list
    February 15, 2009

    Subject: FW: Gun Law Update by Alan Korwin, Democrats have already leaked a gun-ban list

    Date: Thursday, January 22, 2009

    Forward or send to every gun owner you know..... Gun Law Update by Alan Korwin, Author Gun Laws of America Jan. 5, 2008 Gun-ban list proposed Slipping below the radar (or under the short-term memory cap), the Democrats have already leaked a gun-ban list, even under the Bush administration when they knew full well it had no chance of passage (HR 1022, 110th Congress). It serves as a framework for the new list the Brady's plan to introduce shortly. I have an outline of the Brady's current plans and targets of opportunity - it's horrific. They're going after the courts, regulatory agencies, firearms dealers and statutes in an all out effort to restrict we the people. They've made little mention of criminals.

    Now more than ever, attention to the entire Bill of Rights is critical. Gun bans will impact our freedoms under search and seizure, due process, confiscated property, states' rights, free speech, right to assemble and more, in addition to the Second Amendment. The Democrats current gun-ban-list proposal (final list will be worse):

    Rifles (or copies or duplicates):
    M1 Carbine
    Sturm Ruger Mini-14
    Bushmaster XM15
    Armalite M15
    AR-10, AR70
    Thompson 1927, Thompson 1927 Commando, Thompson M1
    AK, AKM, AKS, AK-47, AK-74, ARM
    NHM 90, NHM 91, SA 85, SA 93, VEPR; Olympic Arms PCR
    Calico Liberty
    Dragunov SVD Sniper Rifle or Dragunov SVU
    Fabrique National FN/FAL, FN/LAR, or FNC
    Hi-Point Carbine
    HK-91, HK-93, HK-94, HK-PSG-1
    Kel-Tec Sub Rifle; Saiga, SAR-8, SAR-4800
    SKS with detachable magazine
    SLG 95, SLR 95 or 96, Steyr AU, Tavor, Uzi, Galil and Uzi Sporter, Galil Sporter, or Galil Sniper Rifle

    Pistols (or copies or duplicates):
    Calico M-110
    MAC-10, MAC-11, or MPA3, Olympic Arms OA
    TEC-9, TEC-DC9, TEC-22 Scorpion, or AB-10, Uzi.

    Shotguns (or copies or duplicates):
    Armscor 30 BG, SPAS 12 or LAW 12, Striker 12, Streetsweeper.

    Catch-all category (for anything missed or new designs):
    A semiautomatic rifle that accepts a detachable magazine and has:
    (i) a folding or telescoping stock
    (ii) a threaded barrel
    (iii) a pistol grip (which includes ANYTHING that can serve as a grip, see below)
    (iv) a forward grip; or a barrel shroud.
    Any semiautomatic rifle with a fixed magazine that can accept more than 10 rounds (except tubular magazine .22 rimfire rifles)
    A semiautomatic pistol that has the ability to accept a detachable magazine, and has:
    (i) a second pistol grip
    (ii) a threaded barrel
    (iii) a barrel shroud or
    (iv) can accept a detachable magazine outside of the pistol grip
    (v) a semiautomatic pistol with a fixed magazine that can accept more than 10 rounds.
    A semiautomatic shotgun with:
    (i) a folding or telescoping stock
    (ii) a pistol grip (see definition below)
    (iii) the ability to accept a detachable magazine or a fixed magazine capacity of more than 5 rounds (iv) a shotgun with a revolving cylinder. Frames or receivers for the above are included, along with conversion kits. Attorney General gets carte blanche to ban guns at will: Under the proposal, the U.S. Attorney General can add any "semiautomatic rifle or shotgun originally designed for military or law enforcement use, or a firearm based on the design of such a firearm, that is not particularly suitable for sporting purposes, as determined by the Attorney General."

    Note that Obama's pick for this office (Eric Holder, confirmation hearing set for Jan. 15) wrote a brief in the Heller case supporting the position that you have no right to have a working firearm in your own home. In making this determination, the bill says, "there shall be a rebuttable presumption that a firearm procured for use by the United States military or any federal law enforcement agency is not particularly suitable for sporting purposes, and a firearm shall not be determined to be particularly suitable for sporting purposes solely because the firearm is suitable for use in a sporting event." In plain English this means that ANY firearm ever obtained by federal officers or the military is not suitable for the public. The last part is particularly clever, stating that a firearm doesn't have a sporting purpose just because it can be used for a sporting purpose -- is that devious or what? And of course, "sporting purpose" is a rights infringement with no constitutional or historical support whatsoever, invented by domestic enemies of the right to keep and bear arms to further their cause of disarming the innocent.

    Respectfully submitted, Alan Korwin, Author Gun Laws of America

  2. Jorg Nysgerrig

    Jorg Nysgerrig Member

    Apr 13, 2006
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