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Barn find, literally....

Discussion in 'Shotguns' started by loner5667, Sep 14, 2006.

  1. loner5667

    loner5667 New Member

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    I was helping a friend run some new wiring in an old barn on the property he just purchased, when I was up crawling through the rafters I came across an 'old', rusty .410 single shot break open shot gun. There is no sign of manufacture anywhere on the gun. The butt stock and forearm appear to be walnut with checkering on both sides of the of the 'pistol grip', but none on the foregrip. On the top of the barrel on the port side of the rear groove sight(?) is stamped " -410 BORE-FULL CHOKE-BARREL AND LUG FORGED IN ONE-" Just below that just in front of the break is a 'football shaped' stamped with "chambered for 3 in. shells" inside. the hammer spur is deeply checkered as is the break release lever. The barrel is trim and delicate with a brass bead front sight. The bottom tang is stamped with "14303 XH", presumably the serial number. The gun is in very rough shape, the butt plate is missing, the forend has an old repair that runs the entire length. The metal has heavy surface rust, but there is more than a hint of chase hardening left on the receiver. the barrel looks as though it was 'painted' black at one point over the original bluing. The forend is loose and I can see a flat 'tongue' that runs up the inside of the forend, but there are no external screws or any visible release for the forend/barrel.

    I am looking for any information anyone might be able to help out with, especially how to remove the forearm without further damaging same. Of course if you know the manufacture of the old shotgun, that would be awesome, seeings how my friend sent it home with me cause his wife won't allow firearms in the house. :D :D :D
     
  2. rustymaggot

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    it might just pull off. ive had a few single barrels like that.
     
  3. Jagermeister

    Jagermeister Moderator In Memoriam

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    It sounds like an old Stevens #1, but then I can'st see it. To remove the forearm, pull down on it. YOu may even find more information under there. If you had a photo that would help

    JM
     
  4. JohnBT

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    I'm betting on Iver Johnson based on the "...lug forged in one..."

    John
     
  5. loner5667

    loner5667 New Member

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    I managed to remove the forend, was just stuck real good. Still haven't a clue as to the manufacture. On the inside of the forend is stamped "BRBX", and on the inside curve of the forend that mates to the receiver is stamped "HIIC". I also found the matching serial number stamped on the bottom of the lug. Most of the surface rust cleaned up pretty well, and I managed to get the black paint off of the barrel without removing too much of the remaining finish. Now I'll have to see if I can find a buttplate that will fit. Need one that measures about 4.825"x1.765" with holes space approx. 3.385" CTC. Bore is shiney with no visible pitting. Not real knowledgable about shotguns, but it seems to point and track well. thanks for all the help.
     
  6. lepmik

    lepmik New Member

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    I love stories about found guns. Anyone have links to more?

    On the other hand, I hate stories about people who "don't let firearms into the house." Fear of inanimate objects is immature. Do those people allow kitchen knives in their houses? What about baseball bats? Prescription drugs? Anything can kill if you want it to.
     
  7. Nick1911

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    I'd guess Iver Johnson. I have one that sounds exactly like what you're descirbing, however I'd have to look at it for numbers and whatnot
     
  8. Onmilo

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    What a cool old barn gun.
    How many rats, pigeons, squirrels and raccoons that old gun may have accounted for is anybodies guess.
    A 3" factory chamber tells me the gun was built after 1936 and by that time the field was pretty well narrowed down to Winchester 37s, Harrington Richardsons, Stevens, Iver Johnsons, Mossberg bolt actions, and some single shots imported from Belgium and France.
    The advertising in english pretty much cinches the deal for me and I am going to agree that the gun is probably an Iver Johnson.
     
  9. LooterLefty

    LooterLefty New Member

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    I like the idea of 'barn guns'. As a city dweller, I wonder how common and widespread the practice of keepin a gun out in the barn is, in rural America. Most of my friends that live in the country have a .22 lever-action (or usually a .22 of some sort) that just sits in a outbuilding on their property. Some look like they haven't been touched in years.
     
  10. Kingcreek

    Kingcreek Senior Member

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    Grandpa always had an old single in the barn to dispatch the occaisional varmint.
    Old, ugly, some rust and black paint. Pretty much confirms it. That is a tactically rural, OFFENSIVE shotgun.
     
  11. loner5667

    loner5667 New Member

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    Pictures of the shot gun....

    well, sort of. I thought I would spend some time on the shot gun, clean it up, refinish and repair stock, strip and reblue. So I went to the Birchwood Casey web sight, downloaded the warm wood/ cool steel tips brouchure, and low and behold, the shotgun they used for the demonstration of their products is the exact gun I found in the barn!!!! What are the odds.....hope mine turns out that nice when I'm done. I wonder if someone at Birchwood Casey could tell me was kind of gun was used in their brochure?

    http://www.birchwoodcasey.com/sport/index.html
     

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