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Barnaul .223 ammo

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by Crow1108, Nov 23, 2007.

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  1. Crow1108

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    I was wondering how Barnaul's .223 ammo is. Pretty good value, or just junk? I wanna buy some bulk ammo to keep around, but I don't want to go for the Wolf. Thanks.
     
  2. Onmilo

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    In my experience it has been better than Wolf.
    No chamber jams and acceptable plinking and practice accuracy.
     
  3. rcmodel

    rcmodel Member in memoriam

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    It's still steel-case Russian crap though.

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  4. forrestd

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    Which is why it costs half as much as high quality ammo. ;) It works great for plinking.
     
  5. geojap

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    I have never had any failures with it. I can shoot a 30 round mag into a 4 inch circle at 100 yards in my Saiga .223. I think it is very good range or day to day ammo. I think it is a great buy considering the price.
     
  6. wcwhitey

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    I look for it when I need to go inexpensive. I have found it to be very good, accurate enough and cleaner than Wolf.
     
  7. DMK

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    I've never shot steel cased .223, but I've found Barnual to be better than Wolf or Silver Bear in 7.62x39 and 9x18. It's more consistent, groups better, and is cleaner.
     
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    I recently got 500 rounds of the Barnual nickel plated .223 JHP from AIM for $209 or something like that, that has ran much much better than wolf through an STG-2003c (.223 AK) and a bushy M4.

    I have not had one single jam or anything of the sort in the .223 ak with a full 500 round box of the nickel plated JHP.
     
  9. Deer Hunter

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    Barnaul is great stuff. My saiga loves it. I've got around 300 rounds of that, plus about that same amount of Wolf.
     
  10. Gary G23

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    As far as steel cased commie ammo goes it is the best of the breed.

    Some guns will work fine with steel cased ammo, some won't. I had a Bushmaster that I put 10,000 rounds of Barnual through and only broke one extractor. I sold it and got a LMT. It wouldn't fire two rounds without an empty case getting stuck in the chamber.

    I would try it before I bought a bunch.
     
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    OK for the money. I think if someone loaded up my AK or Saiga with a mixture of the Russian brands I would not know the difference when firing.
     
  12. MD_Willington

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    My saiga likes it, but it's a Russian gun too... it also likes .223 HSM brass cased...
     
  13. salty

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    It is great Saiga foodder. Basically the same as wolf for your AR - dirty and so so accuracy.
     
  14. rcmodel

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    Commie Ammo is for Commie Guns! :neener:

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  15. Onmilo

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    Yeah,,,,thing is,,, this stuff isn't Chinese, it is Russian and they don't play under the communist doctrine anymore though Putin and his merry band are pushing the envelope.
     
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    I wasnt aware that the russian federation didnt still have an active and dominate communist party.
     
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    rcmodel Member in memoriam

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    I wasn't aware the state owned & run arsenals weren't the ones still making all the Russian ammo.

    It may not be a Communist country any longer, but it is still the same old Communist factories, making it on the same old Communist machinery, to the same old Communist specs.

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    If I hadn't started reloading, I'd still be buying more Barnaul. It works fine for me.
     
  19. MIL-DOT

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    as i understand, barnaul makes brown bear ammo ( and the others too,silver and gold bear). is there any difference in the barnaul and bear labeled stuff?
     
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    Mil-dot, I use some .223 Barnaul and Silver Bear in my Saiga and Sig 556 rifles. Both work just fine and I can't find anything wrong with it or any difference between them.
     
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    My dad swears that the Golden bear 30-06 I ordered for him is the hottest 30-06 he's ever shot, if that makes any difference.
     
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    I've run it in my AR-10 with no problems. I keep a spare extractor on hand. At half the price for a case vs. brass stuff, I don't mind if I have to replace a $30 extractor from time to time.
     
  23. LeibstandarteAdH

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    Depending on caliber and lot, the 'bear' ammo is a toss up between Barnual, Ulyanovsk and even sometimes Vympel.
     
  24. MIL-DOT

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    thanks guys.....i'm refering to 7.62x39 brown bear i just ordered from AIM. i recently read some off-hand reference to the " hit and miss of barnaul ammo" or something to that effect, and was hoping i didn't just order a case of questionable ammo.
    and to the OP, sorry, i hope i didn't side-track your thread !!!:D
     
  25. ArfinGreebly

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    Steel Cased Ammo + American Extractors

    I have heard from them what knows better than I, that it can be bad juju for your meant-for-brass-cases American extractor to be asked to grab on steel cases too much.

    I are not expert on this, but it rings true.

    I will, of course, bow to anyone with actual experience, say, 50,000 miles on their extractor shooting steel-cased stuff.
     
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