Basic Flaw in CZ-50 and CZ-70 ?

[Tallball]

My Mauser Model 1914 was in a pawn shop. They were asking $350 for it, but when I offered $300 they were happy to take it. I replaced the springs right away (cost only a few dollars and easy to find) just because it's 100 years old. It's a good shooter, though mildly annoying to field strip. Mine was made in 1916 and has a marking that shows it was accepted for service by the Imperial German Government.

My French MAB was basically a copy of the FN 1910/22, IIRC. It was a good shooter. Just make sure it has the regular service sights, not the absurd and unusable "target sights" added for import.

My best 32ap shooter is easily my Beretta Model 100. It has a 6" barrel and good adjustable sights. It took me a while to track one down, but it's almost like shooting a good-quality 22lr the same size.

My best deal on a 32acp service pistol was easily the FEG. IIRC, it goes under more than one name. The one I have now is called an AP9. My original one cast $200 and was such a nice shooter that I let my MiL talk me out of it. I later replaced it with one from Gunbroker for around $150. They are a pretty close copy of a Walther PP, but with an aluminum frame.

If you want a great 32acp service pistol, I would LOVE to have a CZ83 in that caliber, but they're scarce as hen's teeth. I think that Sig may have made a few P320's in that caliber as well.

Mauser 1914

• Tallball
• Jul 4, 2018

 

[MedWheeler]

jmace57 writes:

Be aware that finding spare mags for either of these are like hen's teeth.

I got lucky. Mine came with the box (minus the "tray" inside it that held the gun) and three magazines.

I guess that's kind of moot, though, as I've had it for two years or so, and still haven't shot it yet (that needs to change, I know!)

 

[jmace57]

not wanting to derail.. but what does a "shooter" quality 1903 go for?.. say no rusting or pitting, but finish is gone, maybe the grips are cracked.. maybe it needs new springs.. you know, something you can bring back to life iwth a little work?.. im also wondering what a same quality 1914 goes for because i'll either buy one of those two, or a CZ70.. im wanting a .32 specifically

I saw several sell in an online auction yesterday for under $225 (plus commissions), but those were seriously cheap prices (and they were SERIOUSLY finish challenged). I would say $300-$350 in the condition you describe...although prices have been steadily going up for the past 4 or 5 years. 5 years ago, you could buy probably 75% examples all day long for $325-$350 - today they are $475 + or -. They are fine pieces of workmanship. Be sure to get a look at the bore. Even nice ones were shot with corrosive ammo, and unless cleaned have dark bores - although they tend to shoot well anyway.

 

[animus_divinus]

if i found one with no finish, itd give me an opportunity to finish it myself, my idea is to make new grips too, new springs.. a complete refurbish job, ya know?.. so $250 with no finish, as long as its not pitted would be perfect

 

[Coyote3855]

I gave $200 for my CZ 70 a couple years ago, to add to my collection of pocket guns. It is in about 95% condition with a scuff on one side of the slide that appears to have happened when the import markings were applied. I don't shoot it much and don't every carry it.

 

[animus_divinus]

theyre still $200, i guess a lot of people arent interested in buying .32s.. it doesnt sound like they were used much before being sold either.. i wonder how much potential those have to some certain mods and customization.. night sights, custom G10 or wooden grips, refinish job, new springs, some polishing, etc.. its not like theres much collector value to harm with these

 

[czhen]

I don't recall very well which had the issue 50/70 or the 52 had a very brittle firing pin.
Where only one vendor made them selling in his very informative web site.
When the initial fever was dissipated no parts and no new arms were imported, he closed down.
Was a very acknowledge on the cz pistols.

 

[Coyote3855]

I have a 70 and a 52. Have heard the brittle firing pin warning on both.

 

[Snowdog]

Tallball, that 1903 is what I'm after. An "affordable" type 3 1903 Colt has been on my short-list for a while.
Now that I bought the other old-school handgun I've been wanting (S&W 60), that's back on my radar.

I hear they are one of the nicest of .32 autos to shoot.

 

[HB]

The grip isnt designed for human hands, maybe lego man hands

 

[Tallball]

Tallball, that 1903 is what I'm after. An "affordable" type 3 1903 Colt has been on my short-list for a while.
Now that I bought the other old-school handgun I've been wanting (S&W 60), that's back on my radar.

The sights are tiny. Other than that, it's wonderful. It balances and points well. The grip safety is unobtrusive. Due to its steel frame and nice shape, the recoil is nearly zilch. My daughter started shooting with me when she was only eight, and really disliked recoil. She took to the 1903 right away.

It is one of those pistols that is so well-made and so well-balanced that it is absolutely a joy to look at, fondle, and shoot.

After some research, I decided that I would get a decent one for a bid of under $350. It took 2-3 months, but I was successful. Gunbroker + Patience = Win​

 

[zaitcev]

If you want a great 32acp service pistol, I would LOVE to have a CZ83 in that caliber, but they're scarce as hen's teeth. I think that Sig may have made a few P320's in that caliber as well.

A P320 in .32 ACP would be a (figurative) bomb, but AFAIK all they did on that front was P250 in .380, and even that is extremely rare. There was a P230 in .32 ACP, but that was nothing special - just a SIG's reimagining of PPK.

 

[donkee]

To me the only real problems are a very heavy DA trigger pull, mushy trigger, trigger slap that annoys me after a half dozen mags or so, and both (50 & 70) have brittle firing pins. Don't dry fire and the pins should last a long time and new ones are available if you do break one. I like my CZ70 and have 2 mags, which is plenty for this gun. ll my other semi autos have at least 6 mags each and some have a couple dozen.