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BBC: Is knife crime really getting worse?

Discussion in 'Non-Firearm Weapons' started by Cavalier Knight, Jul 14, 2008.

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  1. Cavalier Knight

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  2. Cosmoline

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    LOL I used to play with these and throwing stars in the 80's. I don't remember being deemed a public menace. I believe I still have a scar or two from those salad days.
     
  3. jparham

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    I did hear something fairly sensible on the BBC- that kids caught would be taken to emergency wards and shown stab victims, and would talk to victim's families, and to people in prison.

    This explains the need for parenting. I got a pocket knife, a good one, a slipjoint, at age eight. I was raised with knives being tools, not weapons. And I'm also not stupid, I don't go around trying to look tough, or anything, and I carry smartly. I didn't carry my Vex on Halloween, for instance, when we did a little TPing.
     
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    Parenting

    Yeah.

    Parenting is for professionals.

    Today's warning from "the system" . . . Parenting: it's dangerous stuff, folks, don't try it at home.
     
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    Why don't they provide the statistic on the rise in knife wounds if they know there's a rise? Simply because they can show seizures are up doesn't mean that knife attacks are up. Where are the numbers to support the contention that knife wounds are on the rise?
     
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    good point.
    Also, how has the population grown in that time and how do those figures represent the pop by percentage.
    perhaps the percentage per capita relative to blade seizures has decreased?
     
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    Don't they know that "ninjas" used needle shurikens, not little semi-sharp circles?
     
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    What amazes( and scares) me even more than the "Knife Violence" is the fact that the kids school is "getting better" and he supposedly gets accosted for money ~once a week. He also seems to see that there is nothing wrong with that since there is no knife involved.
    (Rhetorical question)
    What type of country is it when a 14 year old boy considers strongarm robbery a normal thing?
     
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    They're probably going to ban Ninjas next. :rolleyes:
     
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    The article was pretty incoherent. But I do think that knife seizures can go up with a media hype blitz in effect, without necessarily increasing crimes. Likewise, there could be some x factor affecting emergency room visits without a change in knife crime committed.

    I don't know...one day in seven sounds pretty bad to me though.
     
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    It is getting worse, but the police's way of recording and accounting for crime has gotten better-better at fudging the issue if you ask me.
     
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    We told them this would happen after the big handgun ban. And it's going beyond mere knife fights. With a helpless public, the criminals are having their way. The latest trend in old Blighty is kidnapping people and torturing them with knives until they reveal PIN numbers and other information. Here are a few recent examples:

    http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Sky-News-Archive/Article/20082851308761

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-murder-pair-tortured-killed-PIN-numbers.html

    Nothing to see here, folks, move along!

    This lucky one survived it:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/bristol/somerset/6923609.stm

    I hate to say it because I love the UK, but between the ubiquitous CCTV, the draconian rules and the tendency of people to shiv each other and act like degenerate thugs, the whole island is starting to resemble a prison. Quite literally.
     
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    I feel very bad for the English, but really, they're serving as a great example, as morbid as that may be.
    And no, I take no pleasure in pointing that out. I'm not a brit-basher at all.

    In fact, I'd love to go live in the U.K. were it not for the disarmament.
     
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    Same here, I'd love to visit the UK and Scandinavia. The castles and history European culture in general has fascinated me for many years and I have studied it extensively. I absolutely refuse to be treated like another sheep while boarding commercial aircraft. Any place that and individual cannot purchase a machine pistol with cash and openly carry it is not free.
     
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    Thanks, shecky.

     

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    I read somewhere that the British Crime Survey actually discounted about 10 million crimes due to it's accountancy rules.
     
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    Knife violence is nothing compared to how it was in the 50s, 60s, 70s and even the 80s in Britain. They just better at recording it now. We don't really see the brawls anymore between a few hundred with straight razors, knifes, bats and chains anymore. If anything nowadays they are kind of pussies.

    Of course with all things violence and crime increases with poverty and lack of opportunity.
     
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    Question...

    Razor sharp or not, wotinell is a "cat skinner"???????
     
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    Articles like this are what give the necessary glamor to the hijinx of would-be knife-knaves.
     
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