Bear Kills Two...

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Here's a good laugh - look at how the British Telegraph summed up the story!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/mai...9.xml&sSheet=/portal/2003/10/09/ixportal.html "The self-styled authority on the animals urged concerned friends not to worry and apparently added that he would be "honoured" to end up in a pile of bear dung. "I think Timothy would say it's the culmination of his life's work," Ms Palovak told the Anchorage Daily News."

This is good writing - they take the same lines quoted in AP and Reuters and string them together to make a very funny, yet understated, point.

Keith
 
"Get out here. I'm getting killed.''

Among the last words Timothy Treadwell uttered to his girlfriend before a bear killed and partially ate both of them were these:

"Get out here. I'm getting killed.''

Words caught on a tape recording of the attack also reveal Treadwell's girlfriend, Amie Huguenard, shouting at him to play dead, then encouraging him to fight back.

http://www.adn.com/front/story/4118880p-4134149c.html
 
Leftist do-gooders lack the ability to plan ahead or predict the outcome of their actions, it would seem.


That about sums them up, whether it's playing with bears or politics.
 
I've seen that guy on the discovery channel and I always think "that guy is nuts" .............looks like I was right. Sorry for the girl and her family, but I have trouble feeling sorry for the fellow. It's kind of like when a daredevil tries to jump the Grand Canyon on a moped or something and breaks his neck. Oh well !!!! He was asking for it.



PS...wonder if we could get Hillary Clinton or Charles Schumer to go camping up there one nice fall day. :evil:
 
It just gets uglier and uglier...

The local paper is out and they have some more findings. The large bear was necropsied and is identified as having been the culprit. The stomach contained a large amount of human tissue and a tee shirt. The bear was 28 years old (from a cross section of the teeth) but was in pretty good shape for a bear of that age. It was not sick, injured or starving.
The smaller bear was eaten by other bears so they can't really tell if it fed on one of them or not.
The biologist wrote that the camp was in the absolute WORST place in the entire area! It was set at the intersection of a number of bear trails in a brushy area along the lake. The camp actually blocked access to the main trail around the lake, forcing bears to either wade out in the water or come through the camp.
The tape of the mauling was recorded during a heavy rain, so it appears to have been on Sunday night when the weather was particularly bad.

The tape is pretty bad. Both people are heard speaking on the tape (along with other unpleasant sounds) - Treadwell probably from a remote microphone and Huguenard apparently holding the camera with the lens cap still on. It seems like he was pretty badly mauled but was still alive and left alone for a few moments. He begins moving and speaking to Huguenard and the bear comes back and finishes him off.

The tape finishes with Ms. Huguenard screaming - and the biologist describes the sound as; "eerily like a predator call." Which indeed, it turned out to be.

Keith
 
Oh, I forgot to add - the cause of death for both humans is listed as "blunt force trauma" followed by dismemberment. They were pounded to death and then torn up.

Keith
 
"blunt force trauma..."

Hum... I seem to recall reading that a fully grown grizzly can bring its paw down with almost 2,000 pounds of force...

The paw's blunt, that's one hell of a lot of force, and there's no doubt that it would induce trauma...
 
seems more like a dominance display rather than a preditory attack
Can you imagine the roaring this 28 year old gave Treadwell?


Ya know when Ole "Bart the bear"
would gape and yawn on cue?
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Don't you be putting yer tent
in my path granola boy
or i'll give you the Shardik stomp
 
But what was wrong with these people, that they thought that they could negotiate the laws of nature? :banghead:

Hey! gun-fucious! How fast do you think the photographer ran after taking that shot? :D LOL
 
I guess the bear may have felt that someone broke into HIS home and used lethal force to defend him/her self (and his family?)
- I can't really fault the bear or I guess I'd have to just politely ask anyone who invaded my home to leave or expect to be shot buy them.

:eek: :confused:
 
http://www.adn.com/front/story/4127139p-4142019c.html

BEARS: Californians' choices may have contributed to fatal encounter.


By CRAIG MEDRED
Anchorage Daily News

(Published: October 10, 2003)


(A portion of the article: )

" ..... From what was found at the campsite in this bear-infested area, and other information, Van Daele said he developed a theory on how Treadwell and Huguenard might have died on Sunday night.

"We will never know exactly what happened, and it is somewhat risky to speculate,'' he warned, but in effort to lend some sense to what happened, he offered this hypothesis based on journals, videotapes and evidence at the scene.

"The most telling piece of information is an audio recording made during the actual bear attack. This goes on for about six minutes and starts with (Treadwell) outside of the tent investigating a bear that came into camp. It was obviously raining very hard at the time and seems to have been twilight or evening, judging from some comments.

"The bear attacks (Treadwell), and he calls for help. Ms. Huguenard opens the tent fly and is very upset. At her urging, he 'plays dead.' It sounds like the bear then retreated for a couple minutes but returned. It again went after him, and he begged her to hit it with something. She in turn screamed for him to fight. The audio ends with his sounds no longer evident and her screams continuing.

"Based on all the evidence, I would guess that this old, large boar had been hanging around the areas getting the last fish of the season. There was little else available to eat, and he competed with the sow for food. Although not in bad condition, he needed more fat for the winter.

"That evening, probably Sunday night, (the male) was walking along a major bear trail and walked by the tent. When he encountered Mr. Treadwell, the bear reacted and either bit him and/or hit him. When he 'played dead,' the bear left, but as is often the case, when Mr. Treadwell started moving again, and/or Ms. Huguenard came to his aid, the bear returned.

"At this time, for some reason, the bear killed and ate him. I suspect that Ms. Huguenard's screams, which sound eerily like a predator call, may have prompted the bear to return and kill her. He then cached her body to be eaten later.''

A predator call is a device hunters use to lure foxes, coyotes and wolves into rifle range. It has a high-pitched tone meant to imitate the call of an injured animal. The calls have been known to attract bears in Alaska.

The old boar that fed upon Treadwell and Huguenard -- and is likely the one that killed them both -- was estimated to weigh more than 1,000 pounds and had broken canine teeth. Van Daele doesn't think the other bear that rangers shot at the scene Monday, an apparent 3-year-old, had anything to do with the killings. That bear's stomach, along with most of its carcass, had already been consumed by other bears.

"In my assessment,'' Van Daele added at the end of a five-page memo, "Mr. Treadwell's actions leading up to the incident, including his behavior around bears, his choice of a campsite and his decision not to have any defensive methods or bear deterrents in the camp, were directly responsible for this catastrophic event.''
 
I love "Bart". :D Seen him in "Legends of the Fall" and another film with Anthony Hopkins. The one where they are stranded in the wild and he fights him with a spear..I forget the name of the film.

God, he was magnificant. How people can witness such a creation and not know there is a God is beyond me. :D
 
This can't have happened.

Everyone knows bear attacks are just figments of an overactive imagination.

They should have taken some pixie dust with them to ward off the bears.




PS: I like to carry my pixie dust in little brass containers


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Pixie dust is illegal in California along with anythng else that is fun.

If only we could hear from the bears on this one. Oh I guess we did they ate their brother on the trail didn't they? Thats because they are wild animals! I love bears by the way, they're delicious. I guess we are too.:evil:
 
And elsewhere around the state...

Southeast bears cause usual trouble
NORMAL YEAR: A few aggressive bruins have had to be shot.

The Associated Press

(Published: October 10, 2003)
JUNEAU -- Bears in Southeast Alaska are not causing any more trouble than usual this year but some aggressive bears have had to be shot anyway, according to a state wildlife biologist.

Phil Mooney, with the Alaska Department of Fish and Game, said most of the problems are with young bears who "haven't found their place in the bear world."

He recalled two aggressive bears in Hoonah, four or five in Angoon and one in Sitka, which charged a veterinarian and ate his dog. Mooney said he also doesn't doubt a Tenakee Springs man was legally justified in shooting two brown bears in August.

Outside of Juneau, where black bears are commonly reported as a nuisance, other communities are dealing with brown bears that "don't tolerate people as well," Mooney said. The problems are worst where bears have easy access to garbage and food meant for people or dogs.

Mooney said Juneau has been doing a good job of restricting bears' access to garbage and other communities are working in the same direction.

There have been police reports of bears breaking into locked enclosures to get garbage. But Neil Barten, Juneau-area biologist for Fish and Game, said the bears' changing behavior can be linked to people doing a better job of securing their trash.

"People never used to have (garbage) enclosures," he said.

Bears who have learned to eat people's garbage can be frustrated by enclosures. When they pull and tug at them, sometimes they learn they can break into them.

"These bears have been around a long time, and, really, they are animals we're going to have to get rid of," Barten said.

This season, Barten has learned more about how bears live, and he hopes to learn more during winter. A female bear trapped while raiding trailer park garbage was moved to the wilderness and fitted with a collar that records her movements using global positioning.

The collar was supposed to pop off on Sept. 15 but didn't. Barten is considering waiting until the bear hibernates before collecting the collar and its data. He said the radio transmitter tells him the bear is staying up against Thunder Mountain.

Bears shouldn't be a problem for much more of the year with winter coming, he said. Depending on the weather, the bears normally go into torpor by the end of November and come out around the middle of Apr
 
Lions and Tigers and Bears.....OH MY....

Hmmmm and people think I'm crazy cause I tell them even a pet racoon is a bad idea. Again, they are called WILD animals for a reason.

six
 
" Even though I try to be careful and prepared as I can be when entering bear country, I have had several encounters with bears over the years. I do carry a Smith & Wesson .44 magnum, but thankfully I have not needed to use it on any of my trips other than to shoot over a bear's head to scare it out of camp. I also carry Pepper Spray, which has come in handy a few times over the years." -John Kozub ~ Guide


At least this guy is living in the real world. :rolleyes:

Janlynn Expeditions
 
I am apalled at the lack of compassion from this forum.Two lives were lost in a senseless act of violence. They were killed just for living. My god people two bears are dead have some respect. :rolleyes: :D ( it's a joke)
 
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