Beaumont Adams?

[Panzerschwein]

Hello my friends! We should lobby Uberti, Pietta or Pedersoli to make a Beaumont Adams repro!





16,000 were used in the U.S. Civil War by the Union in .36 caliber! Larger caliber .442 ones (could round it up to take normal .451-.454 balls) were imported too I believe! Double/single action. Very cool.

Why is just the same old Remingtons and Colts that have been out for years as repros? I think we could send these guys some emails to get them to make one! Who would like to see a NEW never before seen percussion revolver model?

Just kidding, I know there is no market for this revolver and it will never be made as a repro. There probably will never be another new type of cap and ball revolver made by any of the big repro makers, even though there were many other cap and ball revolvers used during the war, some even on a fairly large scale (like this one).

Still fun to talk about though!

 

[daboyleroy]

https://www.ingunowners.com/forums/handguns/150090-beaumont-adams-girls-gun.html


I also with take 2....one for each hand

 

[Mizar]

I would love to see a Beaumont-Adams modern replica, but I think that one of the issues will be with the firing mechanism - those old double actions are a real PITA to time correctly. They have nothing in common with modern DA revolvers.

 

[Tommygunn]

Have Uberti or Pietta make it.. If Pedersoli makes it it will cost too much. As for double action mechanisms being a PITA, couldn't the guts be redesigned to be more modern while leaving the same lines on the exterior?
Purists might hate that....but it might be an answer to those who want to keep costs down.


EDIT: What is that funky lever thingie under the hammer, above the grip?

 

[Mizar]

Well, if you redesign the trigger mechanism it will no longer be Beaumont-Adams... That guy, Beaumont, invented the DA/SA firing mechanism - the first Adams models were double action only.

That funky lever is a safety - it locks the cylinder in between the chambers, so one can safely carry it with all the chambers loaded.

 

[drobs]

Had to watch it in action:



There's a pretty one on Gunbroker:
http://www.gunbroker.com/item/669650887

 

[daboyleroy]

What about
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tranter_(revolver)


http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Hannie_Caulder

 

[Panzerschwein]

Pretty similar, either or for a repro!

Doesn't anyone else get tired of the same old Colts and Remys?

No room in the cap and ball repro world for a NEW repro??

 

[bannockburn]

Cooldill

Yeah you know when you think about I don't reckon anyone's making a boatload of money with the LeMat revolvers but still they there are. I wouldn't mind seeing something new in black powder revolvers besides the usual Colt and Remington offerings.

 

[Sunray]

It have to be a percussion lock? Adams revolvers came in cartridge too. So did Tranters.
"...the LeMat revolvers..." Far more common in American history. Adams and Tranters were Brit issue(well purchase) for far longer than the U.S. Civil War was long. We need a remake of Zulu Dawn and Zulu to get 'em made. Mind you, that Caine fellow and his Baker co-star had the wrong revolver in Zulu.

 

[Panzerschwein]

Yep, has to be a capper!

Fun and wouldn't need an FFL!!

 

[kBob]

As with the Dance revolvers I would be a bit concerned with them not having any sort of shield between my face and the caps.

Other than that one would be neat, especially if the nipples were sized for modern caps that are commonly available.

BTW a quick gander at an old 1986 Dixie Gun Works catalog's Historical section under "Revolver's and Pistols bought by the United States Government between april13, 1861 and April 3,1866" list the purchase totals of "Adams" "Self cocking" revolvers as 1,049 and a total of 26 "Beaumont" revolvers of a type not listed. Total of 1,075 poassibles I guess

Over ten times as many LeFaucheux pin fires were purchased by the US government as were Savage pistols......even the Pettingill and Joslyn were more common in actual US service.

Of course I can not speak to CSA purchases or state and private purchases, but thought those US numbers interesting.

Personally I would like to see the Kerr Revolver from the London Armory re made........say make a set and call them the British Blue and Grey!

I rather liked the video (like most all of his stuff) and learned a bit from them. That sighting arrangement is interesting and learning about the Hand and Hammer issues was enlightening.

Can't imagine they would be as cheap as say two or even three top of the line NMA Remingtons if they were made, just because of the relatively low market and tooling up.

Too bad none of us are multi millionaires with a steel fabrication factory at hand, eh? The Historical Revolver......Company. Limited runs of odd ball cap & balls in modern standard calibers and with modern sized cap nipples. Every one marked THR.

-kBob

 

[Malachi Leviticus Blue]

I'm all for more options in the C&B Revolver replicas, however there have been several others readily available, but the Colts and Remingtons seem to be the ones that sell.
Whitneys, Starrs (both single and double action), and Rogers and Spencers come to mind as being quite prevalent, not to mention all the CSA knock offs.

 

[expat_alaska]

Hello my friends! We should lobby Uberti, Pietta or Pedersoli to make a Beaumont Adams repro!

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I don't think there would be much interest except for us diehards. Neat pistol, though! I liked the vid provided by another poster.

Insofar as 1851 Navy type .36 replicas:

I think if Pietta was smart, they could easily market a Leech and Rigdon (1851 Navy steel frame, plain cylinder, part octagon/part round barrel) from parts in their inventory. The cylinder and barrel is the same as their G&G, which I don't think Pietta markets that anymore (I got mine 2 years ago for $30-$40 more than their 1851 Navy steel). Same parts for a George Todd pistol and the Tucker and Sherrard.

Pietta could also market a Rigdon and Ansley with a 12-stop-slot plain cylinder (that would require milling an additional 6 slots and not installing the "safety" pins on the cylinder) using their 1851 Navy steel frame and the part octagon/part round barrel. Probably would be priced at a premium over a similar 1851 Navy steel.

http://percussionrevolvers.com/index.php?topic=386.0

The same pistol with an octagonal barrel could be marketed as an Augusta Machine Works gun.

http://www.historicalarms.com/antiq...chine-works-antique-confederate-revolver.html

I am aware that Pietta has a Dance .44 based on a modified 1951 Navy steel frame with an oversized non-rebated cylinder, but they could easily market a Dance .36 with a standard 1851 Navy frame and no recoil shields with the part octagon/part round barrel.

All historically correct insofar as replicas go.

I realize that these are just 1851 Navy type pistols with subtle variations, and not a completely new pistol such as the Beaumont-Adams. I don't think either their Starr single- or double-action replicas made much of a splash in the market.

Pietta BP pistols are plainly marked as such on the right side of the barrel. If they could rollmark the top of the barrel with the specific manufacturer name as a commemorative, they could approximate what High-Standard did years ago with their replicas, and that could possibly make them replica collector items, as older HS pistols currently sell for much more than the original new price.

Because of their CNC machining, I am able to mix and match frames, barrels, and cylinders to create about 10 or more different pistols, 5 of which are replica correct. Pietta only places the serial number on the frame and no other parts, probably to their advantage and also mine.

If Pietta was smart in creating a designated replica commemorative pistol line, it might be wise to include matching serial numbers on the barrel and trigger guard, and maybe elsewhere to ensure no parts swapping as I do.

Pietta, are you listening?

Just my $.02 worth

Jim

 

[Jim Watson]

Problem with the Beaumont Adams is that CAS is what drives 19th century revolver reproduction. And SASS does not allow double actions.

 

[Panzerschwein]

Yeah those CAS and SASS boys do really fuel the market, no doubt.

Ah well... at least the Lemat is a fairly unusual revolver that not many people have compared to the inumerable Colt and Remington clones and variations that are the only thing any of the manufacturers are interested in making.

I just like to be "diffurnt" and love new products.

 

[Mike OTDP]

Andy Baumkircher has been working off-and-on on an Adams for several years. Right now, he's working up a Mass. Arms clone (licensed Adams). Having said that, the originals were not noted for superior accuracy. Even the British shooters at the World Championships are using Remingtons or R&S revolvers.

 

[AJumbo]

A friend in Canada owns some original Beaumont-Adams revolvers, mostly due to a vague feeling of patriotism or something. His realistic review of that whole family of revolvers, percussion and cartridge, is that they must be better than nothing. Happily, he own a stinkload of Colts, too.