Thank you all. I saw these holsters that are kind of all over the internet that supposedly fit any handgun. They have a Velcro strap attached so you don't need a belt. Kind of utilitarian, going for about $70.00, thought maybe someone picked one up. I am just now sending a bellyband cheapo, back to Amazon along with a Pachmayer grip for my 45 Shield. Two garbage things that I am surprised Amazon carried. The grip was in the wrong box, it was for the wrong gun. The bellyband was so cheaply made that the clip fell off for the safety strap. You get what you pay for. The idea was to get something other than my usual pocket holsters, because of my disk problems, I have problems wearing a belt, it cuts in after a while. So it's back to the Kydex clip and pocket jobs.