Before you buy from Brent Gurtek of French River Muzzleloaders..

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Reader's view: Gun maker supports requiring background checks at gun shows

For every sweep of guns off the streets, more guns emerge. It’s like bailing water from a leaking ship. Those doing the bailing, the police, do their job well. They confiscate about half a million illicit guns annually. Regrettably, the ship’s carpenters, Minnesota legislators, fail to plug the holes.

Guns flow into the illicit market like water into a leaking ship. Mere bailing does no real good. The holes must be plugged to staunch the flow.

One such “hole” is the illicit purchase of guns from unlicensed sellers at gun shows. (Not that sealing any one hole solves things, but the “gun show loophole” is a good place to start.)


Having exhibited at about a half-dozen gun shows, I can testify that most gun show exhibitors’ time is spent staring at the walls or at their watch. Doing background checks gives them something to do. And the few dollars earned performing background checks should be welcome.
The notion that universal background checks will stifle gun shows is misinformed.

Background checks are quick and easy; 92 percent are completed within 10 minutes (while a good bit of the remaining 8 percent shouldn’t be completed at all because the prospective buyer has raised a red flag in the process).

They’re also effective; since New York passed a universal background check law, about 90 percent of their illicit guns come from out-state sources.

Ultimately, the other “holes” such as gun theft, straw purchase and universal background checks for all gun purchases need to be addressed at the federal level. But since most such initiatives begin at the state or local level, there’s every reason to support a gun show background check bill for Minnesota.

Brent Gurtek

FRENCH RIVER

The writer is a gun maker.

Nice that he wants to throw the rest of us under the bus to boost his business...
 
I think you mean, "Before I make sure to never spend even a Dime with that fool..."

What a load of Manure he's spreading...
 
What does this have to do with blackpowder shooting, other than the fact Mr. Gurtek happens to make muzzleloaders?
 
Well...

"What does this have to do with blackpowder shooting, other than the fact Mr. Gurtek happens to make muzzleloaders?"

What does a bucket of chicken stuck on the head of Oprah have to do with her being as big as she is? Her having her head stuck in it affects the rest of us as having to deal with the fall-out of it. She keeps putin' herself infront of the camera for us to have to look at when we least expect it.

This clown should remember where his bread is buttered... it's sure NOT from the a$$-clowns he's trying to impress with his spewage (politicians).
 
What does this have to do with blackpowder shooting, other than the fact Mr. Gurtek happens to make muzzleloaders?

Exactly nothing. So the man supports a universal gun show back ground check. I really don't care one way or the other about back ground checks at gun shows, they don't effect me other than the cost in time and money, and it's not much. I say give the anti's a back ground law and make them stay away from reinstating a Clinton weapons ban. I like my EBR's to.
 
bwkelly,
What does this have to do with blackpowder shooting? I, for one, want to know if my money could end up with someone who thinks the Bill of Rights is a disposable nuisance. And avoid him. This imbecile will never see a penny of my money and I intend to warn others about him.
 
Just because we muzzleloaders are exempt from a lot of the restrictions that our modern gun shooters have to put up with we can't fall asleep for two very obvious reasons:
1) Most of us own modern guns too.
2) Even if you are exclusively a muzzleloader you will be next to be regulated out of your passion. Consider how hard it can be to buy blackpowder.
 
D*mn. I know the man too and shared a workbench with him once.
 
It appears any business involving Brent Gurtek needs to be added to a very special list containing names like Cooper Firearms, Jim Zumbo and Russell Mark.
 
I say give the anti's a back ground law and make them stay away from reinstating a Clinton weapons ban.
I'm sorry but I disagree with you on this. The antis chip away at our freedom one piece at a time, they will never be satisified untill we are completely disarmed, give them an inch and they will take a mile. A long time ago a politician visited a gun club I belonged to, he was running for governor, he shook our hands, looked us right in the eyes and told us he would never support any laws to restrict our gun rights, and favored only "sensible" "moderate" gun laws. Well he got elected, and was one of the most anti gun politicians to ever stomp on the Second Amendment. We cannot appease these people, they will eat your lunch.
 
I really don't care one way or the other about back ground checks at gun shows, they don't effect me other than the cost in time and money, and it's not much. I say give the anti's a back ground law and make them stay away from reinstating a Clinton weapons ban

Chamberlin "appeased" Hitler, and we all know how that turned out

The world "appeased" the Soviet Union at the end of WW2 and they took Eastern Europe.

We, as a nation chose to "appease" the temperance crowd in the 1920's and as a result, we had to "appease the anti's with the NFA, and again in 1968 we had to appease the anti's after a period of civil unrest.

Now we face a call for more "appeasement" in the name of public safety, and a desire to be looked favorably on by the world stage.

ANYONE who would support ANY subjugation of the second amendment needs to be known and recognized as an enemy to the cause. If they own a business, they should be boycotted, if they are a polotician, they should be run against and defeated. if they are your family, or friends, they should be educated.


How about we appease those who say this or that religion is the wrong faith and close that pesky Freedom of Religion loophole. since some might find these words offensive so we appease them..only selective freedom of speach...please submitt ALL postings, writings, etc. to a thought board for pre screening

Ya'll get my point. To close the so called gunshow loophole would dictate how I can dispose of my privatly held property. Whats next, I can only sell my car though a dealer who can run a background check to assure I dont sell it to a habitual drunk driver? or maybe I will have to sell my zippo collection only after the buyer submits
to a background check to assure they are not an arsonist.

COD
 
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I say give the anti's a back ground law and make them stay away from reinstating a Clinton weapons ban.
I'm sorry but I disagree with you on this. The antis chip away at our freedom one piece at a time, they will never be satisified untill we are completely disarmed, give them an inch and they will take a mile. A long time ago a politician visited a gun club I belonged to, he was running for governor, he shook our hands, looked us right in the eyes and told us he would never support any laws to restrict our gun rights, and favored only "sensible" "moderate" gun laws. Well he got elected, and was one of the most anti gun politicians to ever stomp on the Second Amendment. We cannot appease these people, they will eat your lunch.



I do not trust any politician, they well say anything to get elected, then do what benefits them and their friends before they worry about Joe citizen.

I spend several hours each week writing to my state reps about pending gun laws here in Oregon. Gun owners here do have some support at the state capital, but not enough. I have attended hearing at the capital on gun bills and I attend the local neighborhood meeting that the reps put on. They know me and most well listen to what I have to say.

Now all the people that jumped on thew "screw Brent Gurtek of French River Muzzleloaders band wagon" Why don't you send an e-mail to your state reps and federal reps telling then to support gun owners. If everyone did that they would take notice, they want to be re-elected.

Olmontanaboy, I appreciate your civil disagreement, it's the way men should act.
 
Well gee fellas, didn't you know that in 1776, those black powder rifles, with rifled barrels were the assault rifle of the time, and those people that used them were nothing more than right wing extremist?
It is like my mother. She once told me that if we were to embrace the terrorist with open arms, that the violence could be avoided.
And if all guns are taken away no one could shoot each other. The drugs in the 60s must have been great.
You just can't reason with people that think like that.
Reality is so far away from these peoples grasp that they don't see the truth until an evil person is preying them upon and then they cannot figure out why.
It is like Rosie O’Donnell. She doesn't want us to own guns, but does want her bodyguard to have one. I think we should do something like the movie, "deterrence"

Just in case you don't know. I am non-welfare, White male, Christian, Pro life, Pro gun, Veteran, anti-gay, pro male-female marriage. So according to the obama government, I am a possible terrorist.
Funny how things go, just one short president ago, I was considered to be patriotic, and now with the new regime, Nancy pelosi defines a patriot as an illegal alien that shows up to a meeting on Saturday to listen to her run down our police and border patrol as thugs, and encourage them to break more laws.
Tax cheats run the treasure, and lawyers at the SEC are caught insider trading.

What a world.
Strength through superior firepower.
 

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Here is his contact info.

Brent Gurtek
Duluth, MN

Brent Gurtek grew up in a suburb of Cleveland, Ohio. He graduated from Fenn College in Cleveland with a degree in Mechanical Engineering. He began building Kentucky rifles in 1993. From 1993 to 2000 he completed three rifles. He then became a full time builder and completed eight guns in 2001.

Brent primarily builds Kentucky rifles of Lehigh, Sysquehannah and Sunbury schools. He also builds Nazareth, Pennsylvania and York guns and pistols. He does not make copies of existing guns, but uses the styles previously noted. He uses his own patch box designs and casting mount patterns. His trademark is an exaggerated longhunter

Contact Brent Gurtek at:
1873 Korkki Road
Duluth, MN 55804
phone number: 218-525-7573
[email protected]
 
What does this have to do with blackpowder shooting, other than the fact Mr. Gurtek happens to make muzzleloaders?
Well, if you take the cynical view, it has EVERYTHING to do with blackpowder shooting.

As firearms get harder to acquire, more expensive to own and more difficult to use due to legal restrictions, blackpowder shooting gets more attractive and therefore more profitable.

So it makes a lot of business sense for someone in the blackpowder/muzzle-loading business to endorse further restrictions on smokeless powder guns--assuming one has no compunctions about throwing fellow firearm owners under the bus to help his own bottom line.

I like blackpowder shooting but I'm not interesting in having it turned into the only practical way to own/use a firearm.

Similarly, I like bicycles but I'm not interested in being forced to use one as my primary means of transportation.
 
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