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Benelli: worth the price?

Discussion in 'Shotguns' started by Dan Tanna, Jul 19, 2006.

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  1. Dan Tanna

    Dan Tanna Member

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    Just wondering if the Benelli M2 is worth the expensive price tag. I bought one a few months ago, and I guess it's ok. I brought it out of the safe tonight and comparedit it to the feel of my 870. The Benelli is definitely a nicer gun, and an auto. But is it worth 5 times what I gave for my 870?

    Dan
     
  2. Ironballs

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    used m1s90 or especially a cheaper 1201fp sure is... new m2... how much is your money worth to you?
     
  3. JR719

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    I have not been able to shoot an M2, but my M1 Super 90 was worth every dollar.
     
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    YES!!!! ;)
     
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    I can't speak for the models in question, but my dad's SBE ($1400) is a very nice gun. When comparing it to my SX2 Field model ($600), you can definitely tell by the fit and finish which gun costs more, but I still like my gun better.

    In a lot of cases, I don't think asking "is gun X worth 2x the price of gun Y" isn't really the right way to look at buying a gun. It's really more about whether "Gun X is worth $XXX."
     
  6. Karbon

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    My M1 Super 90 was the best gun purchase I ever made. It's a breeze to strip/clean, great fit for me, light, a slick semiauto, no o-rings, and never fails out in the swamp. Add to that the camo finish, and there is little to even rust.

    It was worth 2 or 3x times what I paid for my old 870.
     
  7. ArmedBear

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    Now, is a Benelli hunting gun worth 3 times the price of a Stoeger 2000 with the same action, or double the price of the Franchi?

    (The Franchi's foreend is too fat for my taste, whereas the Benelli's is purr-fect, but I wonder if I could get used to that for $600.)

    THAT may be a worthwhile question.:)
     
  8. das028

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    Now, is a Benelli hunting gun worth 3 times the price of a Stoeger 2000 with the same action, or double the price of the Franchi?

    YES!!!

    Beleive me there is a huge defference between a Benelli and a Stoegor 2000. And I'm not putting down a Stoegor 2000. (although my dads is a POS, that broke the first day in the field) Just handle both of them side-by-side and you will know what I'm talking about.

    Franchi's are nice, but I dont know about being half the price of a Benelli.

    For a all-around shotgun, I think the Benellis are the best of the best. I use my SBE for everything from dove to geese. Awesome gun!. Probably my best purchase ever.
     
  9. Dave McCracken

    Dave McCracken Moderator In Memoriam

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    A Benelli is about 6 good used 870s.

    I'd rather have the 870s, but that's MY choice. I support your right to differ.
     
  10. Dan Tanna

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    Funny thing...

    I did pretty good with the 870 and an 11-87 I had for a while. I wanted a good all-around gun and everyone said go with the Benelli. I just think I may have a pit in my stomach when my $1100 gun is lying in the bottom of a duck boat, hunters' feet trying not to stomp mud all over it. But then again, that's what I bought it for. I suppose it will all clean off. Maybe I'm having buyer's guilt.

    Thanks for your replies.
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  11. 45R

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    Benelli is definetly worth the price.

    Ask Myself, Duke of Lawnchair and Skunkabilly. Even Dave knows but he wont admit it :neener:
     
  12. The-Fly

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    i dont have a Benelli myself, but i do have a $1250 extrema2. And it's already gotten some dings after 3 months of ownership. But i work it hard, clays, skeet, bird hunting, a few rabbits, etc. Its worth every penny too.
     
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    I love all four of my 870's, but that sweet Italian sportscar is a different breed.;) It just takes a little bit of time to get used to the cha-thunk noise after you pull the trigger.:)
     
  14. Fred Fuller

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    "Worth it" means different things to different people. It has to be an individual determination. "Wants" have a way of turning into "needs" for a lot of us. Coming down hard on the issue, most of us could get by perfectly well with one pretty plain shotgun, an extra barrel and a handful of accessories to cover all our shotgun needs. A $150 used 870 Express Magnum that was originally equipped with a vent ribbed 26- 28" barrel fitted for RemChokes, along with a $75 18" riot/police or 20" rifle sighted smoothbore slug barrel, a handful of choke tubes, a magazine extension, Sidesaddle, sling swivels and sling, LEDWave Z-5 weaponlight and Streamlight mounting bracket for the light- the whole package totals under $400, can reasonably be put together right now with judicious shopping and can absolutely do about all the general shotgun chores anyone could reasonably need done. Granted it would require reconfiguring the gun 'between jobs' but that's no real chore and no real consumer of time either. Granted there might be some issues with pride of ownership compared to the fancy schmancy high-dollar boomsticks, but if the shooter with the budget scattergun is good enough to make the owners of the expensive bright'n'shiny stuff eat crow, then what really matters about the tool he or she uses to do it? Not much, it seems to me, and it just adds savor to the crow.

    Value is seldom measured in dollars alone. There are lots more aspects to value than just a price tag, and some silk purses really did start out as sow's ears (and aren't really very far removed, truth to tell). Reliability and dependability are high on the list IMHO. So are maintainability and adaptability- specialization, as has been famously said, is for insects. There are matters of mechanical design that fascinate some folks, the design features of a certain model may hold a much greater appeal for some shooters than others. There are issues of appearance alone- deep bluing, carefully crafted engraving, fine wood fitted with precision- that appeal to some shooters on an elemental level.

    So what's 'worth it' to me, might not be to you- and vice versa. It isn't for any of us to really say what is or isn't worth it to someone else, when you get right down to it. I tend to agree with Dave, I'd rather have the half dozen 870s (and I do have the half dozen 870s, in fact- but I have one Benelli also, a M1S90 that only cost about as much as two of the 870 packages I listed). I didn't need the Benelli, but I wanted it. I didn't need the FN SLP I just brought home either, but I wanted to experiment with it and see just how much gun it really is. Don't need the old 'suicide safety' Remington M11, or the 1100, or the 11-87; don't really need the Browning A5 or the BPS, the Ithaca 37, the two Winchester 1300s (12 and 20 ga.) or the FN PS, any of the several Mossbergs, or more than about three of the 870s that seem to be reproducing in the dark of the gunsafe either. Don't really need my dad's old Stevens-Fox Model B 20 ga., or the Christmas-present 12 ga. 311 that I about wore out as a boy, or the svelte little Italian 20 ga. O/U from Cape Outfitters that followed me home one day, nor any of several single shots and Savage combination guns. But they're all there anyway.

    "Need" seldom has a lot to do with what shotgun we wind up preferring to shoot, and neither does "worth it." Just find what you like, and enjoy it as often as you can. Life's too short for anything else...

    lpl/nc
     
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    Dont get me worng I love my 870 too. This is soley my trap gun though. Beautiful wood, nice bluing, its just a purdy gun.

    But my SBE, is a warrior, It will take a licking and keep on ticking. After all thats what there made for.

    Oh yeah, I will from time to time shoot clays with it as well.
     
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    "A Benelli is about 6 good used 870s."

    Thats a bit of a stretch!
     
  17. Dave McCracken

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    Not really, Das. There's plenty of used 870s around for less than $200. Tax,title and tags on many Benellis will leave little change from $1500.

    Even an exquisite Trap grade can be had for $250 at times. Ask anapex.

    45R, no way. Benellis are good shotguns, but way overpriced for utility guns.
     
  18. das028

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    Ok, your talking about the cheapo express magnums, and of that sort. You could say the same for the mossy 500 too.

    When I think 870 I think Wingmaster, or something like my trap model. IMO those cheapo 870's are junk. Not something I would buy. No offense.

    1500 is a bit steep for a brand new Benelli, I got my SBE for about 1275 out the door. So maybe 1300 would be pretty much as high as u should pay, out the door.
     
  19. JohnBT

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    $200 to $250 Wingmasters aren't rare at all. Here's one:

    www.gunsamerica.com/guns/976676293.htm Wingmaster $199
    "Very Good Cond. Cap 4+1 ; Barrel 26"; Light contour Barrel, vent rib, ; Sights Twin bead; Metal finish High polish blue; Overall length 46.5"; Stock walnut; finish Hi-gloss;"

    I think Benellis are nice guns. I just don't see me ever owning one unless I get a real deal on a short one with ghost sights. A local gun store must sell a lot of SBEs, because over the years they've always have a selection of like-new ones that have been traded in. Rumor has it the owners didn't like the recoil using big shells.

    Now as far as Expresses being junk, mine has been through heck since '93 and works just fine. Is it going to break soon? :) I even loaned it out this past duck season because I really like the SX-2 I picked up.

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    John,

    Yeah the only drawback to the Benellis action is recoil. But I think its reliablity and ease to clean out weigh its stiff recoil. Besides you can install one of the mercury recoil reducers for those big geese loads. Or just stop being such a wimp and shot the darn thing!:D

    Well to each is own I guess. I'm happy with my SBE, (although its been a while since I've been in the field), and your happy with your express, and thats the only thing that really matter. So happy hunting, and safe shooting:)
     
  21. ArmedBear

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    True generally, though some people are lucky enough to actually do the high-volume wingshooting that makes a Benelli worth its price. They're popular in Argentina as loaner guns, because they keep going and going, without cleaning or fixing.

    There are three schools of thought about waterfowl guns, from what I can gather.

    1. Take something cheap that shoots well, and if it gets really trashed, figure on buying another one. That would be me.
    2. Take something expensive that won't break because it's very well built. That would be someone with a Benelli.
    3. Take something pretty, because it's how you look when you hunt that really matters.:) (Orvis catalog, luxury SUV, and waxed-cotton outerwear mandatory)
     
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    I love the light weight, easy to swing characteristics of my M1. It's lighter than my 870 and way lighter than a 1187 (at least by feel). Mine has taken many beatings each year and the camo has held up great (except for shell ejection chips in the camo).
    My dad's 1187 has jamed so many times, lots of one shot only sessions. My frugle father (CHEAP) even said last year he wishes he would have bought a used M1 or SBE instead of his Remmy.

    One tip, get a Limbsaver. It really helped absorb some of the pounding they are know for.
     
  23. ArmedBear

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    That's not typical. Is there something wrong with it? Does he clean it? Are you shooting in extreme weather or something?

    The Benelli might just be the most reliable gun out there, but the 11-87 isn't usually a one-shot gun if there's nothing wrong with it.
     
  24. Dave McCracken

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    Actually, Das, I was referring to old Wingmasters. A couple here were less than 150.

    Number 6, bought 3 years ago or so, was made in 1955 and I got it out the door for $178. Looks near new.

    As for Expresses being trash, nope. Not in my universe....
     
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    Dave,

    Ok Well I would rather have my 1200 dollar Benelli then your used 150 dollar wingmaster any day of the week! And obviously you like would choose otherwise

    So I guess its safe to say we are both happy;)


    Me, I would much rather have quality then quanity anytime. Like ArmedBear said,"Take something expensive that won't break because it's very well built. That would be someone with a Benelli.", I guess I'm this person. At least I know I'll never have to buy another shotgun in my life.(not the a wont, bu just saying):)
     
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