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Beretta 92FS recoil springs

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by Hackworth92FS, Jan 8, 2003.

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  1. Hackworth92FS

    Hackworth92FS Member

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    I just purchased a Beretta92 FS about three months ago. It has been flawless. I've run about 500 round of Winchester white box through it. A friend and I were out shooting last week. He wanted to try out my Beretta. He insisted on shooting the first shot in double-action. I was surprised when after the first shot, the slide did not cycle all the way, but stayed to the rear. It almost seemed to me that he was riding the hammer and hesitatiing on his pull. I have not had any jams nor failures with it, but for some reason he did. He also told me that it was a little "snappy", and I should look into a new recoil spring and guide. This does seem to be somewhat true. Any thoughts on what LBS spring I should get. I do not use handloads, and my pistol is mainly for target/defense shooting.
     
  2. BILLG

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    The Beretta is designed to fire the first shot double action.I always fire the first shot double action.I suspect the problem may have been your friends thumb hitting the slide stop and locking the slide back.The recoil spring should last for at least a thousand rounds.The factory spring is 13lbs you really don't need to change the weight spring.The stock rated spring should work just fine.For more Beretta info go to www.berettaforum.com BILLG
     
  3. firestar

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    I had this same problem with my Beretta 92fs except in reverse. My gun wouldn't lock back after the last shot sometimes. I thought the mags might be the problem but they happened with all six of my mags (3 OEM 15rd and 3 aftermarket 10rd mags). It seemed to happen only when I was shooting from the bench with two hands. I finally figuired out that I was slightly depressing the slide release and that prevented the slide stop from engaging on the last shot.

    I bet your friend was doing the same thing but holding it up not down like I was. The Beretta is the only gun that has done this to me. I wonder if it is placed at the wrong spot for me or if the slide stop spring is lighter than other guns.

    Have him shoot it again but watch his hand to see if his thumb or other hand is touching the slide stop.
     
  4. XavierBreath

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    It's your friend, not your gun. Tell him to shoot what he can shoot competently and to quit blaming the weapon for his own shortcomings.

    The recoil spring has little to do with the slide locking back. A thumb on the slide lock does.
     
  5. Hackworth92FS

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    Snappy recoil

    Thanks for your quick replies. My friend also mentioned that the recoil seemed very high for such a heavy gun. He recommended getting a heavier recoil spring to reduce the felt recoil. Is he correct in his thinking?
     
  6. HaveGun

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    If you shot 500 rounds through the gun and had no problems, don't change a thing on the gun. If the problem continues to happen when you shoot, then there may be a problem. I never thought any 9mm had a bad recoil. I have several. Recoil is something you get use to and don't even think about.
     
  7. firestar

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    Has your friend ever shot a Beretta 92 before? If not then just ignore him. If he has and there is a real differance in recoil, it could be due to: 1. hotter ammo, 2. different hold, i.e. one handed vs. two handed or 3. your recoil spring. I doubt it is your spring if you bought the gun new and have only put 500rds through it, anything is possible though.

    Maybe you can get a second opinion from someone more knowledgable but if it were me and the gun worked fine and felt O.K. in MY hands, I would just leave it alone and enjoy shooting the hell out of it really fast.:D
     
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    Rounds before change.....

    IIRC - the Beretta-L forum noted a recoil spring change at the 5000 rd mark - not 500 mentioned above.
    Heck, at 500 I'd be replacing it once a month!!
     
  9. 10-Ring

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    WOW! Every 5000 rounds? Geez, I've been neglecting my 2 92's :what: I guess I should break down & buy a couple of 13# recoil springs...Does it matter, Wolf or factory?
     
  10. KarlG

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    I have a 92D Centurian (shorter slide/barrel). I bought it used and the recoil felt a little "snappier" than I felt it should be. I bought and installed a new (standard weight) Wolff spring. It did reduce felt recoil slightly.

    Wolff has an FAQ that may assist. It can be found at the URL below:

    http://www.gunsprings.com/resources/FAQ.htm
     
  11. Muzzle Flash

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    Geez, some of you guys need to take some reading lessons. First off, he never said that I had said the recoil spring was causing the slide to lock back. Secondly, It wasn't my thumb on the slide stop, the gun had a failure to feed using Winchester 100 round Value-Pak, the slide stop wasn' pushed up. Lastly, in comparison between my XD-9, a friends Sig P226 and Hackworth's 92FS, all shooting the same ammo and Isocolies stance, the 92FS was the snappiest(due to the recoil spring and bore axis), so I sugested that maybe he should get some extra strength recoil springs, which would help a little, as stated by KarlG.:neener:
     
  12. KarlG

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    To clarify my comment:

    I replaced a factory spring with unknown cycles (I put over 2000 rounds through the gun) with a new "factory weight" spring manufactured by an afermarket manufacturer. The felt recoil reduction I noticed may be as a result of the old spring being worn or the new spring being stiffer than spec or differently designed than the original.

    Bottom line: I had good results.
     
  13. firestar

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    Muzzle Flash, this is a quote from your good buddy.
    "A friend and I were out shooting last week. He wanted to try out my Beretta. He insisted on shooting the first shot in double-action. I was surprised when after the first shot, the slide did not cycle all the way, but stayed to the rear. It almost seemed to me that he was riding the hammer and hesitatiing on his pull. I have not had any jams nor failures with it, but for some reason he did. He also told me that it was a little "snappy", and I should look into a new recoil spring and guide."

    What do you expect us to think? There was no mention of a jam, only the slide locking back. It sounds like either you or your frined are in way over your head and might want to stick to revolvers, they don't need new recoil springs to function. If 9mm is too "snappy" for you, try a full sized .22lr like the Casull, maybe that will be tolerable for you.:rolleyes:
     
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