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Berrys Bullets Quality

Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by 345 DeSoto, Feb 5, 2008.

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  1. 345 DeSoto

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    I want to bulk order .45 ACP bullets, and found a 185 gr HBRN offered by Berrys Bullets. I'll be loading for a Marlin 45 Carbine (18 1/2" barrel). Any feedback on the quality of these plated bullets? Will they work well in the longer Carbine barrel, or are they just for the shorter 1911 barrel? I plan to load around 7 (+/-) grains of Unique (1911 loading)...
     
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    Wonderful bullets, and they'd work well in a camp carbine as long as you don't drive them over about 1250-fps.

    They have the same external appearance of a 230-gr FMJ so you can get a good snug bullet seat allowing more contact with the case wall than a flat-base 185-gr.

    Have you priced these lately? They have at least doubled in price, and if you order direct they hit you at checkout with a massive lead surcharge.

    Cabelas has recently adjusted their prices up on Berry's, but they don't charge the BS surcharge.
     
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    Here is a photo with the Berry's Hollow Base Round Nose bullet included (second from right), for what it may be worth to you . . . of course, the hollow base is not visible in such a photo.

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    Once again, TJConevera has the best price ($109/1,000). I would be willing to bet that the "Surcharge" is to keep the price up, so that you'll buy from the people who buy from THEM. I figure I'd better order a bunch, before I check back in a month or so and find the price has doubled. I'm wondering if anyone else offers a 185gr HBRN...
     
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    excellent bullets!
    part of the reason i bought them is so i could shoot at the local indoor range that specifies the use of TMJ-type 'encapsulated' bullets only.

    they're equivalent to CCI/Speer TMJ
     
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    The Berry's 185 SWC, 185 RNHB, 200 & 230 Gr Rn all shoot very well . The 185 SWC & 200 Gr HP will shoot into one ragged hole all day long from my Series 80 Colt.

    I tried their 9MM 124 Gr HP and did not have good results with it either. It fed poorly. It shot decent when it chambered, but nothing to get excited about.
     
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    Would the Ogive for the 185 HBRN, for seating purposes, give the same OAL as the 230 FMJ?...

    THIRTIES - Thanks for the comparison photo...one picture is worth a thousand words...
     
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    Judging from the photo, it would be different from the Rainier 230g RN shown. But I do not have any Berry 230g RN to compare. I bet Berry would tell you over the phone.
     
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    error ... web site is moving sloooow.
     
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    Yes
     
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    I shot Berry's 9mm when I could get them for $39/1K. All 19K I loaded worked fine at velocities around 1130fps. Reasonably accurate too as long as loaded correctly. However, if they want to charge jacketed bullet prices I'll buy actual jacketed bullets or get a lead pot and some molds.
     
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    I just got back from the SHOT Show in Las Vegas and had a long conversation with Gilbert Berry about prices. He told me he's paying $1.40 a pound for virgin lead, and shops 4 different lead suppliers all the time to get the best price. Two years ago, he was paying 35 cents a pound for lead. Copper is currently costing him $4.60 a pound, and all prices are going up constantly. Then he has to pay the labor for converting the raw materials into bullets, along with the costs of the machinery, plus packaging, etc. He's not making much on the bullets at the current time.

    I have a wholesale account with Berry's, and I did place a large order with them, as a hedge against future price increases. One of the bullets I ordered was the 185 grain HBWC, since I've had such good luck with it in my 1911's and Springfield XD. I also have great luck with their 9mm bullets, but I only shoot the 115 grain in 9mm, and reserve all the 124 grain bullets for 357 Sig loading.

    Last spring, I placed an order for 40,000 .38 bullets from a local casting company and paid $38.00 per thousand. The current price from the same supplier is $87.50 per thousand. I would suggest that if you find some reasonably priced bullets, that you buy all you can afford.

    Hope this helps.

    Fred
     
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