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best 22LR for woodchuck?

Discussion in 'Hunting' started by trueg50, May 30, 2007.

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  1. trueg50

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    Hey everyone,

    Just out of curiosity, what in your opinion is the best 22LR round for quickly and humanely dispatching a woodchuck with a heart/lungs shot? would such a shot kill him before he can get that 10 feet or so back to his hole?

    Or is it even possible to kill a woodchuck instantly with a 22LR to the heart/lungs?

    *all shots would be taken at approximately 50-60 yards

    Thanks!
     
  2. ArmedBear

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    We don't have them around here.

    I visited some people in rural Ohio, and they had a real problem with them eating their garden vegetables.

    Anyway, they ended up getting a 12 Gauge HD gun, since their .22LR rifle didn't kill the things humanely or quickly, at much closer range than 50+ yards! The 12 Gauge, with buckshot, worked well for the close-range shooting they did, but not a .22LR. The .22 is almost guaranteed to send them back into their holes, especially at 50+ yards.

    I think you just found an excuse to get a legitimate varmint rifle.:D

    V-Max bullets in a scoped smallbore centerfire should do the trick.
     
  3. ZeSpectre

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    I consider a .22LR to be a little on the light side for 'chucks. Of course we used to use a .243 with 80gr bullets (man we would have loved the new polymer tipped 50gr stuff from Hornady back then!).
     
  4. Kingcreek

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    They can have alot of tough hide and fat that can soak up .22's at ranges closer than 50. I prefer head shots if I'm holding a .22rimfire , especially effective if you can pop one into the ear hole. I have dispatched several with a scoped Browning Buckmark 10" Sihouette.
    In my personal experience, .223, .243, 12g, and .44mag from a levergun are all more effective.
     
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    Have shot(at) a few. Keep it under 75 yards, depending on your shooting ability, and they will die soon.
     
  6. floridaboy

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    Any good 36 gr hollow point. The remmies used to work well for me. CCI's too.
     
  7. AJAX22

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    If you can get ahold of the CCI quick Shok ammo its pretty good for little critters,

    its pre fragmented into three pieces which basicly turn the insides into jello, and it cooks along pretty good.

    if you want proof set up some watter bottles and shoot them with a regular bullet, then pop it with the quick shok.

    its impressive.
     
  8. Clipper

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    I've probably shot 20-25 woodchucks with a scoped Browning BL-22 and stingers, and found them effective to beyond 100 yards, if you take head shots. And though a .22 to the body will eventually kill them, body shots with anything much under .357 will not anchor them, unless you darn near tear 'em in two. They're very tough.
     
  9. Geno
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    Remington Thunderbolts are fantastic! They group 2.25" at 225 yards from my Ruger 10/22 HB. I have used them for head/neck shots on chucks to 150 yards with instant kills. At 225 they still died with-in about 5 seconds, and that, I my opinion, is fair. I do, however, try to keep shots at not more than 150 rounds for instant drops.

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  10. ArmedBear

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    I'm guessing that the reason the original poster asked about heart/lung at 50 yards was that this doesn't involve a benchrest.:)

    Sure, with a good rest, an accurized rifle and a good scope, you can shoot 'em in the neck at 150 yards. But if he just wants to get them out of his garden with a quick-handling rifle, that's a different kind of shooting.

    trueg50- What are the details?:)
     
  11. redneck2

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    Dude, back in "the day", I grew up on a dairy farm. I shot 128 in one summer (that was with a 22-250 & .270).

    A .22 rimfire to the body will NOT give instant kills in most circumstances. I remember one time when my brother was shooting at a really big one with our Nylon 66 .22 autoloader. He racked off maybe 3-4 rounds and it started to run. He shot a couple more times and it still was moving. Ended up emptying the gun, maybe 8-9 rounds total. It ran maybe 30 feet and finally died just short of the hole. We flipped it over and the bottom side had all kinds of exit holes.

    Having killed hundreds, I'd consider 100 yards with a .22 exceptionally optimistic. If I were going, I'd either take my .22 mag or .223/22-250. As with most animals, it depends on the size. A little one, maybe a .22 is OK. For the big, big ones a .22 is nominal.
     
  12. trueg50

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    Well thank all of you for your help.

    I agree with ArmedBear, I think I have just found a good reason to get a mini-14, or at least something a little harder hitting than my 10/22 carbine.

    I plan on picking up so different high velocity hollowpoints, just to try out at the range to see which is the best for my rifle.

    I will have to restrict my shots to under 50 yards, and keep it to head shots. It seems a bit more "sporting" to take the perfect shot I only get once in a great while.
     
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    and they will die soon.

    Sorry, I'm trying to be Highroad, but ""soon" isn't good enough. As a hunter of anything, one has a primary obligation to deliver a quick, humane kill. "Use enough gun."
     
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    Once you get into hunting, you'll find that there's light years of difference between a .22 and something like a .223 or 22-250. I've used a Mini-14 and they're fine for what they are, but a real varmint rifle in something like .223 is a treat. Match it up with a good scope and you're in for some fun.
     
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    Remington Yellow Jackets if your rifle will shoot them well enough. As with all .22's, you need to try a box of as many brands of ammo as you can to find the ammo your rifle shoots best. Especially with hypervelocity .22's.
     
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    from what i have seen people useing on the hunting shows for small game like groundhods and woodchucks. they use the new .17 caliber guns. i think they go a lot faster than a 22. might look into one of them instead of a 22
     
  18. physics

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    Hang on a minute here... woodchucks are REAL?!?! :what: Totally thought those were just a joke... I guess the best round would depend on how much wood the woodchuck chucks (sorry, someone had to do it). :neener:
     
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    I would get CCI Velocitors. It is a 40 gr. Gold Dot HP bullet that flies at 1435fps. I would go with CCI Stingers as a second choice.
    -Mike
     
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    Personally, I prefer the .22 Hornet -- it's a mild little cartridge, and with modern loads, especially with the 35-grain V-Max, it kills chucks and similar varmits like lightning.
     
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    I second this. If you really intend to stick with a .22LR, this is probably the way to go.

    Another option would be Paco Kelly's Accurizer. I've seen some of those modified .22 rounds do some vicious work on varmints. Never seen a groundhog, though. Don't know how big those are.
     
  22. Luis Leon

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    I've killed quite a few woodchucks with my CZ452 American and 36 grain remington hollowpoints. My longest shot was eighty measure yards, most were in the 25 to 50 yard range. Haven't lost one and I shot a really big one last summer. All headshots, with a good .22 rifle, headshots on chucks out to 100 yards aren't difficult, but I prefer to get closer.

    regards,

    Luis Leon
     
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    I walked to the livingroom this morning to look out through the window at the beautiful view. Anyone care to guess whom I saw? It was Woodrow! Our daughter named him three years back when we moved in. Here, in a subdivision-setting, Woodrow poses no genuine threat, and so he gets a varmint pass. Now, if Woodrow were to move to the family farm, that would be a different case.

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    Could a wood chuck chuck a 22? :D
     
  25. trueg50

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    Yea, I have a woodchuck who was nice enough to move in under my shed, which is one 10 foot clover patch away from my families medium sized garden, complete with a few rows of pea plants.

    As much as I don't mind him, he will most likely eat the whole pea row in a night, along with what ever else strikes his fancy. So its him or the garden. He also poses a problem for my dog. He is a Jack Russel terrier, who has an uncanny ability to never back down or run away, even when the 10 lb dog corners a 20lb woodchuck.

    I have heard good things about the Velocitors, I will certainly try them out. I have some stingers kicking around, and I will also try some CCI mini-mags, and some federal bulk packs of HV HP
     
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