Discussion in 'Handguns: General Discussion' started by skipbo32, Dec 25, 2010.
I got rid of all my 380s when ammo for them became scarce, but one round that could always be called upon for best performance was the CorBon
And like the poster above stated.. CorBon. Of course, you may not get expansion at .380 velocities even with a larger gun like the Sig or Bersa and premium ammo.
But, expansion isn't everything..
In bare gelatin it expanded and fragmented - which allowed it to achieve the penetration depth that it did. Its expansion performance against 4LD surprised me - it performed much better than I had anticipated it would.
Bare gelatin presents a best case situation for bullet expansion. 4LD presents a worst case situation for bullet expansion. Actual expansion and penetration performance in the human body usually falls between these two extremes.
Of all the .380 cartridges available I feel this is the best JHP load for my wife's pistol.
For test data and photos of recovered bullets see - http://www.firearmstactical.com/test_data/380acp/hor380-90xtp-b85.htm
As the Sig P232 has a 3.6" barrel I would expect similar terminal performance.
I've never had a problem with them feeding in my Kahr P380 or my Colt Pony.
If you ever check out Evan Marshall's Stopping Power Forum they are very partial to the DPX round. PowerBall is also thought of highly as well.
I like the Golden Sabers because if their 102 weight compared to the typical 90-95 gr "normal" .380, and I sure hope it fails to expand! Penetration is what you are most likely not going to have enough of with a .380.
Remember, the three most important things about handgun bullets are: Placement, Placement, & Penetration. No magic bullet can make up for poor placement on the target and well placed rounds will fail if they don't penetrate to the vitals.
In a self defense situation you have a really good chance of needing the bullet to go through a hand or a forearm before it gets to where it matters.
With these pocket pistols I seen no need to fire 200+ rounds "to be sure" as IMHO no failures in two or three times the round count you plan on actually carrying is IMHO enough to start with. Then want matters more is actually carrying it and verifying function at increasingly long intervals between tests.
My PM40 recently passed the carry for two years and worked 100% when tested at the range straight out of my carry rig.
Of course, I consider a .380 underpowered. Mine is loaded with FMJ. I would not use hollow points in that caliber.
Oh, there is a lot of advertising hype out there, they want you to buy their high priced hollow points. That does not mean that they have better stopping power than FMJ.
great point. thanks!
personally I carry Georgia Arms Gold Dots in mine... but I shoot their FMJ for practice... the worse you have to worry about if a .380 over penetrates is you've just made two holes in the bad guy for one shot.
I have a 232 and......
........roll my own. I'm partial to a heavier FMJ for penetration like someone said before. Mine are loaded up with 100gr FMJs with 3.3grs of Bullseye behind them. Got the specs off the web from a site where a guy loads stuff a little hotter than the books. I fall just short of or hover around 1000 fps. Accuracy is decent at self defense range. My 232 is the heavier stainless model and I changed out the recoil spring for a heavier one, so there isn't any real "snappiness" to it common to the blowbacks.
The 100gr cast +P FN feeds and fuctions without flaw in my 232. It is my every day carry round.
I had to put down a doe that was hit by a car, one of the guys standing by there asked "what did you shoot it with, a 45?" This round in my 232 is every bit what Buffalo Bore says it is. By far and away more powerfull than any of the "big name" rounds I have tryed.
In my experience, the size of the hole in the front isn't the issue. It's whether or not the bullet is round. Hydra-Shoks are conical, with a sharp lip at the rim of the hollow point. On my P230 this lip hangs on the seam between the lower feed ramp (on the frame) and the upper feed ramp (on the barrel.) I have a friend with a P230, and he has no problem running Hydra-Shoks through his. This indicates a manufacturing variance among similar pistols. This makes anecdotal reports of what works and what doesn't less helpful. Like I said, whatever you choose, try a box before you buy in bulk.
Accuracy was no worse at 7 yards.
I trust it, until I don't.
Buffalo Bore ammo - if it feeds in your specific gun, I think it'd be hard to beat.
well i am a bit disappointed with the Hornady .380 ammo. i put 5 rounds in a raccoon and it kept running after i hit him. i felt like i should have dropped him with one shot. he was a big coon but still...........something tells me i would have dropped him with a simple FMJ.
Winchester Silver Tips
Hornady Critical Defense
Winchester Ranger T
In the long run, the right ammo is less important than proficiency and familiarity.
Good info here from a past THR post...
Now I do use HP's in my 1911 SA 45 automatic, and Dan Wesson 10MM but that is another story.
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