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Best bolt-action 7.62 x 54?

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by KBintheSLC, Sep 7, 2008.

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  1. KBintheSLC

    KBintheSLC Member

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    I am is the market for a bolty in 7.62 x 54... something in the $500ish range. I love the ammo prices compared to .308. Need plenty of accuracy, mounting options, and good ol durability in the outdoors. Any suggestions? I have never owned a rifle in this caliber so I don't even know where to begin. :confused:

    Thanks, KB
     
  2. Funderb

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    finnish mosin
     
  3. Vaarok

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    Finnish M-28/30 with irons, M-39 with scout scope, or reproduction PU sniper rifle.
     
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    +1 on former posts
     
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    The drawback of the 28/30 is its narrower bore, which means you need to use handloads for maximum accuracy. For a shooter I'd suggest a Tikka late moder M-92 from the early 40's or an M-39. These are reasonably easy to find for under $300. Just don't cut on them!
     
  6. Ash

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    Best all-around bolt-action 7.62x54r is the M39 Mosin. It is the happy compromise between the superbly accurate M28/30 that is limited by the .308 bore (and sometimes with the shorter chamber) and the fully utilitarian M91. The M39 has the same great sights and excellent trigger of the 28/30 but has the wider .310 bore most common for 7.62x54r while at the same time being considerably more available.

    Don't waste your time worrying about manufacturers as they were all stellar (the VKT and SAKO are virtually the same).

    Ash
     
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    Finnish Mosin. Hands down.
     
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    Please, just don't turn Bubba loose on a Finnish Mosin. Pleeeeeeease...
     
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  10. KBintheSLC

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    Excellent... thanks for the feedback. Now its time to hunt down a good specimen.

    Do you guys ever see the M39's pop up locally, or is it best to find one online?
     
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    Check your local gun show or order online.

    Ash
     
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    Spend the time to get your C&R license then you can order them online. M38,M44, & MN91/30s can all be had for less than a hundred. Then spend the other $400 on ammo or other guns. The license is good for 3 years and gets you discounts a places like MidwayUSA & Brownells.
    Ron
     
  13. Ash

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    But an M39 will shoot vastly better.

    Ash
     
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    Whats the scoop on mounting optics on a 41-44 model Mosin M39? I assume the do not have a mounting rail, but do they come pre-tapped for easy installation or do I have to get it tapped by a gun smith?

    Anyone play with a scoped M39 at over 600 yards? How did it work out?

    Thats the site I was just looking at... he seems to have some good deals on nice rifles.
     
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    Another question... what is the technological difference between the "antique" and the "FFL needed" rifles?
     
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    Firearms before, I think, 1898, are considered antique and don't need a dealer license. Might double check that year, I can't remember for sure.
     
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    1898 and earlier are antiques. A fair number of M39's were built on antique receivers and therefore are legal antiques that require no paperwork. Finns are great.

    By the way, don't drill and tap. If you must have optics, get a scout-style mount.

    Ash
     
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    M-39s do not come tapped for scopes, and if you drill and tap one, ruining it, you will be hunted down and have bad things done to you. The Mosin action is very poorly suited to conventional telescopic mounting solutions anyways, unless you have a very old Mannlicher-Schonauer side-mount handy.

    What they do have, as a simple and easy option, is the ability to have the rear sight replaced by a clamp-on scout-mounted scope base that works very well.
     
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    Ditto what Vaarok said. This is NOT the rifle for you if you want a same-old Remchester scoped clone. This is a rifle for those who love iron sights or want to learn how to use them.

    You do not need a scope. Simo Häyhä didn't need one.
     
  22. KBintheSLC

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    Sounds like the M39 is not very scope friendly, so back to my original inquiry...

    Is there a more modern bolt-action rifle that is chambered in 7.62x54 and is scope friendly? If I am just using iron sights, my AK ought to do.
     
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    EAA imported some Baikal double rifles in 7.62x54r that could be scoped any way you wanted. They were not bolt-action repeaters, of course, but they were modern capable of standard optics mounting.

    Ash
     
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    There are scout scope mounting options if you're wedded to optics. Darrell makes great mounts, and a search of the forum will come up with his contact info.

    There's considerable difference between the AK's crude iron sights and the sights of a Finn Mosin.
     
  25. Vaarok

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    As well as range and accuracy potential.
     
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