Best long distance pistol caliber

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I was thinking about possibly buying a new pistol soon probably a revolver that would be a step up over what I already have for reaching out to about 200 yards max.

You have to ask yourself the following question:

What is holding you back from shooting farther than 200 yards with your current 357mag?

For most folks, the answer is “trajectory management”. Meaning your bullet is dropping so steeply after your current range that it’s simply unmanageable. In that case, the answer is almost unilaterally - find a faster cartridge. Increasing caliber, for example, shooting a 41 or 44mag typically only adds recoil, as you’re not increasing velocity or ballistic coefficient sufficiently to actually increase your range. Revolver cartridges will typically start falling apart just far enough out there that their relatively abysmal ballistic coefficients trade nickels with their modest velocities when trying to run lighter bullets at higher speeds... so it takes something like 357max, 357/44 B&D, 454casull, or 460 S&W to significantly increase velocities (and BC’s) to extend our range.

Otherwise - we’re really just talking about raw group size, and in my experience, most Ruger, Taurus, or S&W revolvers are going to run somewhere around 2.5-4moa, so if you’re at the small end of that, you might find changing your a different common revolver could INCREASE your group size, and decrease your range potential.

A used 357mag Blackhawk can be bought for under $500, reamed to accept 357/44 B&D for under $200, then 44mag brass necked down for low cost - achieving 1750-1800fps with a 180grn bullet around .245G1, without resorting to the relatively extreme recoil of the 454casull or 460S&W (and without the ridiculous size of the X Frame).


If resorting to a specialty pistol, then the TC Encore is largely the easiest and least expensive answer, and as I said above, you can take a Specialty Pistol out past a mile if you so choose.
 
What is holding you back from shooting farther than 200 yards with your current 357mag

The limit here is not something I am holding myself to. The problem is finding a place locally that I can shoot beyond about the 200-250 yard line. If I had a place with unlimited distance I would be all out aiming as far as my eyes could see.
 
Why? I mean why does a heavy bullet work better? As long as we're sticking with traditional handgun cartridges and not bottle-neck rifle cartridges, it seems like the two problems would be high drag because of low ballistic coefficient and because of this, if the bullet starts out supersonic, it will soon go transonic. On the other hand, if we stay subsonic, it will have a very steep trajectory. I suppose a heavier bullet will be more stable in wind, but if there is little wind then that doesn't matter. So given the goal of the OP with traditional handgun cartridges, what are the priorities?
the sound barrier doesn't have much affect, if any, on this shape of bullet so running them out the barrel supersonic is ok.

trajectory is the same whether steep or not. when I shoot my pistols at 400 yards I am aiming about 30 feet over the target.

murf
 
Dan Wesson made a few .375 revolvers that were supposed to be a compromise on range vs recoil.

I shot a little IHMSA in the 1970s and the only reason I went to a .44 was that my .357 would not always knock down the 46 pound ram. (I had to learn the lesson all over again when I shot BPCR MS and found the same problem with my .38-55.)
 
There is a big difference between a Conventional Pistol Cartridge and say one for an XP-100 / Thompson Contender etc. Off a rest, I shot my XP-100 out to 250 yards at woodchuck size targets. I can hold good groups at 100 yards on a no wind day with my S&W Model 41 (.22 LR) and even further with my .22 LR Comp barrel on my Thompson Contender.

For a conventional pistol cartridge for longer than 100 yards I like the .41 magnum and for my XP-100, 6mmBR and for my TC, .223.

Bob
 
I won a substantial bet back in 1997, up by Duluth MN. All I did was put 3 shots into a 3" target dot at three hundred yards from a cold barreled Contender .223 Sweet Sixteen. The actual group was only 1 3/4" if I remember right. The bet started out that I couldn't even hit a 5 gallon bucket once out of three tries.
 
The limit here is not something I am holding myself to. The problem is finding a place locally that I can shoot beyond about the 200-250 yard line. If I had a place with unlimited distance I would be all out aiming as far as my eyes could see.


In this case your issue is not the new caliber but the new range. I have seen people put 9mm on target at 400 yards. If you are looking for a long distance target practice then what you are using is good enough until you get to a point where its not. If you want a long distance kill (hunting because there is no such thing s SD/DH at 200/400 etc yards) then may be some of the rifle calibers mentioned here in a pistol configuration would be the way to go.

However, it seems like your question is target shooting related. For that I would suggest that you find the lightest 9mm with the highest velocity; and then shoot a bit around that velocity and bullet weight to figure out what your shooting best.

Also look into 38 super and 357 Magnum high velocity rounds.

 
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Long distance handgunning is the cats meow in my opinion.
If you're looking at revolvers a 6 inch barrel is imo bare minimum for distance shooting. 357 is a fine cartridge for it. I shot my 4 inch gp100 out to 400 yards with multiple hits on a 14x28 inch metal target per cylinder. However, as mentioned before, contenders and encores will be superior in every way aside from fire rate. I went from revolvers to contenders, when I got fed up with ruger and their forcing cones (another story for another time) I've had a ton of fun with contender barrels at distances out to 1k yards. My next build is going to be a 1911 built for extreme distances with a few tricks up its sleeve.

A 10mm 1911 will also go the distance, if one was so inclined to want a 1911 pistol.
 
My uncle had a nice Blackhawk in .30 Carbine, classified as a pistol round by some although produced initially for a rifle.

I can't help but notice that many of these posts mention rifle rounds not pistol rounds like the OP inquired about, although personally I really do dig the whole idea of such combos myself. People are talking up bottlenecked cartridges alot. In keeping with this AND the OP's actual specifications, I nominate 7.62x25 Tok. Might make a nice varminter. And maybe 5.7 Herstal too.

Deviating from that a little and including a rifle round, maybe 6.5 Grendel?
 
The limit here is not something I am holding myself to. The problem is finding a place locally that I can shoot beyond about the 200-250 yard line. If I had a place with unlimited distance I would be all out aiming as far as my eyes could see.

Grab a set of Burris Signature Zee Rings with the offset inserts and find somewhere long enough to shoot. @xphunter has taken .357mags out last 500yrds holding sub-moa (rebarreled GP100). Given the offset inserts, a guy can push out to about 600 with a 30mm optic, without even holding over.
 
I have a Dan Wesson 15-2 .357 that I might pull from the safe tomorrow. It has a 4" barrel, but for those who dont know, a number of Dan Wesson revolvers had the ability to swap barrels out easily and there were alot of sizes available, up to 15" I believe. Every once in awhile I scan Ebay and Gunbroker for barrels, but they are often as expensive as the gun itself, and I rarely see the really long ones which I'd love to try. Dan Wesson revolvers have excellent accuracy and adjustable rear sights and fiber optic front. I'd love to see what it can do with a 15" barrel.
 
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You know you have hit the deep end when you start buying these for your pistols lol.
 

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You know you have hit the deep end when you start buying these for your pistols lol.

No, no! That gets my full endorsement! Before I moved to such a handgun friendly state I lived in NY where handguns have been considered evil incarnate for quite some time. I never owned one there, just rifles and shotguns. These days I'm a full advocate of the rifle-ized handgun and I'd like to ride that train myself.
 
The revolver you are shooting is fine for what your doing. [only target] If you have an itch for a more accurate revolver, you can't go wrong with an FA83. [check the avatar]
 
New York does have some interesting new laws that effect pistols since the Safe Act went into effect, but I have had both a State and City permit since 1971 and have 24 pistols on my State Permit and another 16 on my city permit.

Bob
 
I rarely get a chance to shoot beyond 100 yards so my favorite guns/calibers are: Contender in 357, 222, 30-30; 29-2 44; Super Blackhawk 44; and my Tracker .17.
 
I rarely get a chance to shoot beyond 100 yards so my favorite guns/calibers are: Contender in 357, 222, 30-30; 29-2 44; Super Blackhawk 44; and my Tracker .17.

The other day I was looking at 17 pistols online through a local store. I've never shot one but I know of a few people that have 17s in rifles. The tracker 17 caught my eye but guess what I can't buy one in California because it's not on the roster. On the website I was looking at there were two 17s that were ca friendly but not in stock currently. I can't even remember what the makes and models were but probably not something I would want.

I guess I will be sticking with the old GP 100 for now. Not that I have a problem with it or anything but who can turn down buying a new gun. When I bought the GP 100 there were a couple of 460s and 454s in the case next to it. I might have to go see if anything catches my eye.
 
I believe the Poster asked for PISTOL calibers.

My vote is for 38 Super out of a Government 1911.
 
Waterboy...If you’re hitting 4 of 6 on bowling pin sized targets at 160 yards that’s dang fine shooting. You didn’t specify if you’re interested in going further by using rifle calibers or if you plan to stay with traditional pistol calibers.

If it’s the latter then .357 Maximum and 445 Super Mag come to mind. Not knowing what you’re currently lobbing down range in your GP you could go with a hot rodded 125 grainer to extend your distance a little.

^^^Good stuff here. If you want something easy to shoot without lots of recoil you could also get a 357 Ruger Blackhawk. I'm actually in the process of tailoring a load for 150 yd shooting.
 
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A used 357mag Blackhawk can be bought for under $500, reamed to accept 357/44 B&D for under $200, then 44mag brass necked down for low cost - achieving 1750-1800fps with a 180grn bullet around .245G1, without resorting to the relatively extreme recoil of the 454casull or 460S&W (and without the ridiculous size of the X Frame).

Now that I've got a 357 Blackhawk i'm actually thinking of finding an extra cylinder (blued or stainless, doesn't matter to me) and giving it the B&D treatment. Or else i'll have to go the Encore route.
 
^^^Good stuff here. If you want something easy to shoot without lots of recoil you could also get a 357 Ruger Blackhawk. I'm actually in the process of tailoring a load for 150 yd shooting.

Probably a dumb question but what's the big difference between the GP 100 and the black hawk? If I'm thinking correctly the black hawk is a single action. Anything that makes it a better choice? I almost always shoot my GP 100 SA.
 
Probably a dumb question but what's the big difference between the GP 100 and the black hawk? If I'm thinking correctly the black hawk is a single action. Anything that makes it a better choice? I almost always shoot my GP 100 SA.
For me it's a personal preference I guess. I also like how it balances compare to the GP100, not to mention mine's a few ounces heavier.
 
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