Best Looking factory SA! The Ruger Vaquero- now how do I lighten that hammer!

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Oooh yeah she’s pretty! best looking $700 Factory SA Gun around!

But that hammer is HEAVY like the full instruction manual under the barrel

So, any spring kit suggestions to make it very light in hammer action?
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Tinman883 said:
Wolff:
www.midwayusa.com

Wolff Hammer Spring Pack Ruger Bisley, Blackhawk, Single Six, Super

Factory replacement parts are manufactured to the exact same specifications and tolerances and use the same manufacturing materials as the original...
www.midwayusa.com www.midwayusa.com
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Ohen Cepel said:
Another vote for Wolff, easy to do and I haven't had any issues with reliability with their springs.

Look on the bright side; that billboard is on the bottom of the barrel rather than the side like they were for years. None would be optimal, but the bottom is an improvement.
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had good luck with Wolff springs before! THANKS!

now I need a matching pair! Left & Right
 
Factory springs are heavy for a reason. They are heavy so that all brands of primers and cartridges will fire reliably.

I can't tell you how many guys showed up at CAS matches and clicked away with out getting their ammo to fire, because they had put in springs that were too light to reliably fire their ammo.

Replacing factory springs with lighter springs IS NOT a trigger job.

Replacing factory springs with lighter springs may result in inconsistent ignition because of the inherent friction in the moving parts.

A true trigger job consists of reducing internal friction between the lock parts by judiciously polishing the surfaces of the parts that rub against each other, with fine stones. Also, reducing the friction where the parts rub against the frame.

Once the internal friction has been reduced, THEN lighter springs can be installed which will still reliably ignite all brands of primers and cartridges.

It has been many years since I have put lighter springs into a Ruger, but I always used Wolff springs.

First off, I cannot tell from your photo whether the Ruger is one of the old 'large frame' 'original model' Vaqueros, or a smaller frame New Vaquero.

The two different models require different replacement springs.

Go to the Wolff homepage.


Scroll through to Revolvers, and then to Ruger.

The tab for Single Action Series is for the older large frame Ruger Single actions, such as the 'original model' Vaquero and the New Model Blackhawk.

The tab for Small Frame (XR-3) Single Actions is for the New Vaquero.

Read the options carefully.

As I said, it has been a long time since I put lighter springs into a Ruger, so I cannot remember exactly which springs to buy, but I always bought Shooter's Packs which included a few Reduced Power hammer springs, as well as a Reduced Power trigger spring. I never bothered to replace the latch pin springs. Do not assume the lightest hammer spring is what you want. Buy a pack with 2 or 3 hammer springs and do the work of trying the different hammer springs at the range to make sure you did not install a spring that is too light. This will require disassembling the revolver a few times to try the different springs.

Good Luck.
 
Driftwood Johnson said:
Factory springs are heavy for a reason. They are heavy so that all brands of primers and cartridges will fire reliably.

I can't tell you how many guys showed up at CAS matches and clicked away with out getting their ammo to fire, because they had put in springs that were too light to reliably fire their ammo.

Replacing factory springs with lighter springs IS NOT a trigger job.

Replacing factory springs with lighter springs may result in inconsistent ignition because of the inherent friction in the moving parts.

A true trigger job consists of reducing internal friction between the lock parts by judiciously polishing the surfaces of the parts that rub against each other, with fine stones. Also, reducing the friction where the parts rub against the frame.

Once the internal friction has been reduced, THEN lighter springs can be installed which will still reliably ignite all brands of primers and cartridges.

It has been many years since I have put lighter springs into a Ruger, but I always used Wolff springs.

First off, I cannot tell from your photo whether the Ruger is one of the old 'large frame' 'original model' Vaqueros, or a smaller frame New Vaquero.

The two different models require different replacement springs.

Go to the Wolff homepage.


Scroll through to Revolvers, and then to Ruger.

The tab for Single Action Series is for the older large frame Ruger Single actions, such as the 'original model' Vaquero and the New Model Blackhawk.

The tab for Small Frame (XR-3) Single Actions is for the New Vaquero.

Read the options carefully.

As I said, it has been a long time since I put lighter springs into a Ruger, so I cannot remember exactly which springs to buy, but I always bought Shooter's Packs which included a few Reduced Power hammer springs, as well as a Reduced Power trigger spring. I never bothered to replace the latch pin springs. Do not assume the lightest hammer spring is what you want. Buy a pack with 2 or 3 hammer springs and do the work of trying the different hammer springs at the range to make sure you did not install a spring that is too light. This will require disassembling the revolver a few times to try the different springs.

Good Luck.
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thanks Driftwood! your option always counts in my book! I’ll start taking the Ruger apart and start Stoning & polishing the parts before the springs.

I was a reloader before a shooter, nothing a soft Federal Primer wouldn’t help with light springs set.
 
Even though I have several Ruger SA’s, and the Bisley Vaquero is a very nice gun, to me there is still nothing more elegant and eye appealing than a Colt SAA.

Nice pistola there @Mark_Mark, once you re spring it the trigger should be much better.

Stay safe.
 
Riomouse911 said:
Even though I have several Ruger SA’s, and the Bisley Vaquero is a very nice gun, to me there is still nothing more elegant and eye appealing than a Colt SAA.

Nice pistola there @Mark_Mark, once you re spring it the trigger should be much better.

Stay safe.
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thanks!!! I do love Colt SAA, but I but those in the OG category. These modern interpretations of SAA is refreshing
 
Factory is a 23 lb spring. A new gun and a bisley hammer can be quite stiff. Changing to a lighter spring might cause the trigger pull to be gritty. My Blackhawk had a 17 lb spring when I got it, and had a gritty trigger pull. I changed to a standard 23 lb spring and the trigger is crisp. When I changed, I went down to the gunsmith and asked him for a used takeout spring, which is much less stiff than a new spring.

One of the things you can do to help your hammer pull is to polish the strut on the round end, and smooth/polish the strut where the spring rides, as well as the hole in the mainspring seat. I'd do that, and I'd get a used 23 lb spring and see how you like it.
 
Bazoo said:
Factory is a 23 lb spring. A new gun and a bisley hammer can be quite stiff. Changing to a lighter spring might cause the trigger pull to be gritty. My Blackhawk had a 17 lb spring when I got it, and had a gritty trigger pull. I changed to a standard 23 lb spring and the trigger is crisp. When I changed, I went down to the gunsmith and asked him for a used takeout spring, which is much less stiff than a new spring.

One of the things you can do to help your hammer pull is to polish the strut on the round end, and smooth/polish the strut where the spring rides, as well as the hole in the mainspring seat. I'd do that, and I'd get a used 23 lb spring and see how you like it.
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I’ve done that polishing on a SAA clone! thanks, will try on this bad boy
 
I use full power hammer springs in all of my single actions, I don't like the longer lock time of the lighter springs. What I do swap out are the trigger return springs,usually with the 30 oz. Wolff spring. In any event, a proper trigger tune is the best money spent.
 
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