Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by bagmanhd1, Mar 1, 2009.
If you want a good gun for the price, I think M&P 45 is way to go. Also, I hear Springfield 1911's are a good value for the money, but I decided not to go the 1911 route. I just like to avoid manual safetys on all guns I own. HK45s are nice looking guns, and one day if I am rich and money is no object, maybe I wil lget one. However, after reading more and more about Sig 220, I have come to the conclusion that it may be superior and better constructed gun and costs about the same as the HK45. Sig P220 is another good choice if you have more money to spend. I have shot Sig P220 at the range and as a new shooter it takes practice, because it has very low recoil. When you learn how to aim that thing and resist any jerking, its the most accurate gun I am yet to shoot compared with the polymers or Kimbers.
BTW, I just purchased a Sig P229 Elite and I can say its so beautiful and feels so nice in my hand. It is a compact gun with a 15 round capacity using Italian Mec Gar mags and has good weight to it, it probably has minimum recoil I would think. Haven't shot it yet, but next week I will.
To answer all your requirements:
Don't know where you live bagmanhd1, but find a place that carried STI. Have them pull out a Kimber, a Springfield, and an STI. Rack the slide on all of them and pull the trigger.
STI's slide is like a room temperature stick of butter sliding around on a superheated Teflon pan. And the triggers are beautiful.
The whole gun feels completely solid.
The price is going to be anywhere from around $600-2000+ depending on which one you get and if you decide have any sort of custom work done.
Heirloom......well you're an American and the 1911 is the quintescent(sp) American handgun. You can pickup a Les Baer for about $1700 and be proud to shoot it and pass it on.
Ease of use
What really doesn't matter is price. I am really looking for a one-time purchase of a semi-auto .45 that I can shoot forever and will to my kids
Not just to pile-on, but based on your post I really must agree with some manner of 1911-style pistol. Quality and value are kind of "combinable". You can get quality at a lower price, but a true "heirloom-quality" piece will be worth what you pay for it. If price really doesn't matter you should definitely go full custom, although if you don't want to go through a LOT of trying different brands and configurations, then some of the semi-customs are also excellent choices. When we get into those "Only one gun" threads, I get to thinking that a high-quality 1911 fits just about all the criteria - except for those who put magazine capacity at or near the top of their list. I am not in the camp with those who feel a full-size steel 1911 is an ideal concealed carry gun (although it can obviously be done) but I think it works well for just about everything. Contrary to what most people post, they do not all have to be tuned to be reliable and accurate (especially the semi- and full-customs). Accurate, reliable, potent and (don't like really like the term applied to inanimate objects but, ok...)sexy. I agree with the poster who earlier said as far as an heirloom, a polymer gun - though an excellent tool - doesn't really "speak" to future generations, even tho they may appreciate it as the tool it is.
Any of the top of the line 1911 manufacturers make guns of heirloom quality -- Brown, Baer, Wilson, Nighthawk, and Springfield Pro. I would also look at Colts, especially those who have seen the inside of their custom shop. I don't mean the commemoratives but those like the Colt Special Combat or Combat Elite. The Colt name will continue to add value for a long time.
GLOCK 21 is my first choice
Les Baer TRS for the range.
Whatever you want for a handgun for yourself, make sure it fits your hand first before all other thinkings.
I loved all the Colts, had the cash for em but... alas they dont fit me.
I loved the XM's and some of the other guns but either the rack was too hard or the stuff on the guns out of reach etc... pick pick pick...
I found a S&W M&P .45 APC that did the trick for me it fits in my hand (Not necessarily yours) and settles right in ready to go. Just needs a rack.
Im the shakiest shot in the whole USA, but when I put that M&P in my hand, it becomes part of me the same way the remmy 870 does (Does that make sense?)
Great stuff folks
I really want to thank you folks that have responded. Excellent information!
Keep the comments coming, but this much I've leaned:
Need to hold each pistol to see how it fits my hand (average size guy, but the wife is on the small side).
Rack the slide to see how it feels.
Shoot 'em if I can.
I recommend that you buy the original, buy the Colt.
I would suggest a O1918 Colt WWI Reissue 1911 for $900-$950.
Plus in 5-10 years it will be worth much more money than a fake copy.
I have never had a problem with my three Colts.
Buy the original......buy the Colt.
The term "1911" gets thrown around a lot and I believe the meaning has become diluted. The original military designation, however was "Model of 1911" which was abbreviated as "M1911". Of the myriad pistols being built and sold today as "1911s", most have strayed far enough from the original, military design and specifications that they are 1911s only in general form.
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