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Best powder drop for extruded handgun powders?

Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by mud99, Feb 15, 2012.

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  1. mud99

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    I'm curious what people here think is the best powder drop for small loads of extruded handgun powders.

    I've been very happy with my Hornady LNL AP powder measure for ball powder and rifle sized charges, however even with the small cylinder I find it to not be very accurate when metering, for example, a 4gr charge of bullseye.

    Most of the time it is dead on, however every once in a while I can get a charge that is off by up to +0.1gr or -0.2gr.

    I'm looking to add a second powder drop anyway - should I get another Hornady, and add a vibrator or something to try and even out the charge, or is their a better powder drop for these type of powders?

    Ideally I would also like an adjustment dial that is less coarse than what the Hornady has.
     
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    I think that were you to every once in a while get a difference of +- .1gr for a 4 gr throw, you're good to go.. given a truly non-maximum load.
     
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    I like my RCBS Uniflow, have no problem with any powder I load with..
     
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    I have four drum style powder measures, a RCBS Uniflow, Redding 10-X, Midway Indispensable, and Hornady L-N-L. Except the Hornady, each is set up for a different range of powder charges.

    All four are plenty consistent with all kinds of powder. I prefer to use a powder baffle in mine and I do my best not to vibrate the measure when cycling. Others have success with different methods.

    The key to consistent powder throws is to operate it the same way every time.
     
  5. mud99

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    So, would a +0.1gr or -0.2gr charge every 20-30 throws be considered about as consistent as I can expect no matter which powder measure I get?

    If so, might as well get another Hornady, it's also one of the cheapest.

    Has anyone used the micrometer metering assembly from hornady?
     
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    I have the LNL AP with powder drop and i also shoot 4grs of bullseye for my 45acp. I have seen the same results sometimes + or - .1grs. I'm just shooting targets so its not much of a big deal for me. I have a RCBS uniflow that is also very acurate. I've found the type of powder makes just as much a difference. I use a RCBS chargemaster combo, for hunting rounds or trying to work up a load, that way i know exactly how much is the correct amount. After i have the load i want a little up or down tollerance is going to happen when you want it faster that 15 seconds per charge (chargemaster speed). I wouldn't have gotten the chargemaster myself because of the cost, but it was a gift several years ago and it works well. Hope that helps
     
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    I say yes again, for whatever that's worth. Read abo.. nevermind.
     
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    Varget is known to be a powder that's very tough to get consistent throws on due to it being long grain extruded. After trying many different powder measures I settled on the Lee Perfect Powder Measure which didn't cost me but $20. Due its design it doesn't have such a hard time with cutting grains or making consistent drops. Worth taking a look at for your powders.

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    So your answer was what?

    We're talking +/-.1gr here.
     
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    I get plus/minus 0.1 grain or better with all powders out of my measure once I get it settled in.
     
  11. mud99

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    Certaindeaf, what I mentioned amounts to appx a .3 grain range, which is a 7.5% difference on a 4gr charge, so while it may not be bad, it doesn't seem like an error to ignore. At the very least I need to stay 0.2gr away from maximum.
     
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    Actually, to bring up another question, how accurate are your scales? I have the Cabelas digital scale which has a resolution of .1gr - are the mechanical scales or other electronic scales more or less accurate?
     
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    In the past I used a Lee Pro Auto disk.
    If I had an issue with any powder, I just changed over to my RBCS Uniflow - problem solved.
    Now that I have a Dillon press, I haven't had need to change powder hoppers.
    So I guess I'm saying go with a Dillon or RCBS & you'll be happy.

    A decent mechanical scale in proper working order should be dead on.
    Any decent electronic scale will be +- 1/10th of a grain.
     
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    Lee Perfect Powder Measure

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    I have been using a Lee Perfect Powder Measure for a while now and even though it looks and feels cheap it throws are extremely accurate especially with long grain powders like Varget. I have not however used it for light powder throws like 4.0gr Bullseye, only with rifle powders. I use a Pro Auto-Disk for handgun powders and very light charges.
     
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    I have loaded a ton of bullseye on my Hornady. I found it jumped once when dropping 3.8 for my 9mm by .2 gr. I sill weigh about every 10 rounds with it and picked up the RCBS powder cop. If I am loading max loads I still use my single stage Lee and weigh them all. Just my method, but I am not comfortable loading max on the LNL. I really only load max for my .44 mag bear loads, and leave a buffer for the lnl just cause I like the cushion.

    I have a Lee perfect powder measure that is spot on for the single stage and they are cheap.

    Mike
     
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    The only extruded handgun powder I'm aware of is IMR-4227. The rest are all either ball or flake powders.

    Now that we have that straightened out, there's a couple of powders that are just plain a PITA to measure. Unique, 800-X, and bullseye. I gave up on bullseye years ago, it's just too fluffy and the tiny charges are hard to visualize in the bottom of the case.

    Rotary drum type measures will work just fine IF they have a powder baffle, and are operated with the same stroke every time. Used on a LNL they should be very steady in their stroke. The powder baffle will make it throw even charges until the powder is used to a level below the baffle.

    Variances of + or - one tenth of a grain will not show up on a target. Or on a chronograph,(in extreme spread readings).
     
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