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Best rifle for defensive butt-stroking?

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by Cannonball888, Oct 26, 2008.

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  1. Cannonball888

    Cannonball888 Member

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    AKs and especially ARs seem ridiculous for this. Garands, M1As, and '03s look qualified and seem about equal. But my vote goes to the German mauser. That capped butt adds a lot of metal surface area compared to just a flat plate. The mauser buttstock also seems a bit thicker than other rifles too.
     
  2. Rubber_Duck

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    If I smacked you with the butt of my AKM I think you would change your mind.
     
  3. alemonkey

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    Brown Bess

    Sorry, it's a musket. For butt-stroking purposes it would suffice though.
     
  4. General Geoff

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    Mosin Nagant, there is no contest. Three words:

    Supreme War Club. :)
     
  5. younganddumb

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    I think I go with a anything in 50 BMG just because all most anything that shoots that round is over 25 pounds.
     
  6. Nugilum

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    Come on, Yugo SKS :uhoh:
     
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    I, too, cast my vote for the unrivaled, Supreme War Club; the Mosin-Nagant. However, I must specifically vote for the M44.


    young, If you are able to buttstroke someone with a Barrett, you're a stronger man than I. Seriously, those are things are difficult to even hold off-hand for more than a few seconds.
     
  9. telecaster1981

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    Garand or FN49 for me...Mausers seem plenty robust as well.
     
  10. 35 Whelen

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    Butt stroking...

    Several years ago I ordered and received a Garand from the DCM...or ODCMP as it were. Anyhow, I was commenting to my Dad, who was in the Army in the mid '50's, how heavy my Garand was and how silly it seemed to put as rifle in such a thick, heavy stock. He said: "Of course it's heavy! They made it that way for a reason! In "basics", they taught us that if you run out of ammunition, you grab the rifle by the barrel and use it for a club!"

    35W
     
  11. sharkhunter2018

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    I'd take just about any mil-surp with a steel butt plate. Of the ones I have, I'll take either my Garand or M44.
     
  12. R.W.Dale

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    As a plus it also doubles as a pike!
     
  13. Gord

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    I'm gonna go with the 91/30. All the benefits of an M44, but with longer reach for barrel/bayo pokings! :D
     
  14. Ben Shepherd

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    Guys I think you'd find an AR with the standard butt stock a pretty brutal tool for the job. Have you ever looked at the butt plate one closely? OUCH!
     
  15. Oohrah

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    Plenty of practice in the late fifties with the M-1 Garand.
    Never seen a stock break, and they had a decent sized
    bayonet. The M-16s were the ones that needed a decent
    platform when they quit running:cuss: Like the previous
    bolt combat arms, there are no protruding hand grips or
    dinky little blades to get in the wayof delivering a fatal
    blow if needed with almost ten pounds of weight behind it.:)
     
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    SlRS FALS for lesser beings(not my fault you were'nt born english:D)
    were quite capable of persuading someone they had made a mistake
     
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    I'm going to go with Mosins, and the 91/30 in particularly. That small, thing, metal-tipped thing hurts enough when you are shooting it, let alone getting clubbed with it, and the barrel and wooden forearm are so long that you can get a big swing radius, which is good for both reach and velocity. Through in that mean-ass bayonet, and you begin to see why it didn't matter if their bolts got sticky.
     
  18. Jeff F

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    Any of them that are heavy and solid.
     
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    well, personally, if i bring a gun, i want to use it as such, not a club. but if, for some reason i had to, i would say anything with a steel buttplate work work wonders.
     
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    French?

    How about the MAS, Lebel, or any other French rifle? Most of them don't shoot all that well, and have never been fired, but dropped only once or twice
    by surrendering troops...:p
     
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    At a pinch if you had the SUIT sight on your L1A1 you can club then to death with that as well........

    Ben_Shepherd

    If you smack someone with an AR you have a reaaaaal high probability of fracturing the butt and/or buggering up your recoil buffer tube.......Not a good thing, weapon out for the count.
     
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    I have an L1A1 with a SUIT. I know it's robust for an optic, but I'd be leary of knocking the rifle around with it mounted, lest I screw up the zero.

    Also, to be honest, I wish they hadn't mounted the dang thing so high. I can't get a proper cheek weld on the stock and still look through the thing.
     
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    My M48 mauser would be a brutal club. The stock is thick and the wood seems to be extremely dense. It is a heavy rifle and that steel endcap would not be kind to a skull.
     
  24. db_tanker

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    hmm...dang near any WW2 era rifle would be hell on your scalp...my K-31 would be rough...the two enfields...I'd pass, thanks.


    The one I would actually fear more would be a full sized Trapdoor Springfield...


    No, thank you I need that section of skull bone intact and not powdered. :neener:
     
  25. pbhome71

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    I think anything with fiberglass-filled traditional-style stock (e.g. M14) lasts a bit longer if you have to whack a bunch of things....
     
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