Best Selling Rifle in America

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i would say you guys are coming very close to gettting this thread closed. talking politics is a no-no.

whether it's the 10/22, rem700, or the ar that can claim the title of the best selling rifle in the us, i didn't take the op's statement as a fact. more of a reasonable assumption based on their extreme popularity over the last few years.
 
AR-15 - The best selling type of rifle in America.

This opens up lots of areas for discussion...

Why do you think is it a hot seller? Some have shot them others see others shooting and talking about them; to many individual reasons for a purpose

Do you have one? Yes

Why did you choose the AR-15 platform? Had money, saw one and thought I would give it a try. Used M-14 in the military and never played with the M-16.. I have purchased others since my first one.

Did you purchase it from a licensed dealer or a private individual? Dealer and manufacture

How much ammo do you keep on hand and why? Enough for my purposes which is hunting. I am not a last minute buyer if I can help it.
 
How about the fact that rapid firing an AR is actually more fun than with an AK, and rapid fire with an AK is hard to beat!

Did I just write that?
How do you figure that? I've always found the cycling of an AK much more invigorating, what with that huge chunk of reciprocating steel. It's a mans rifle.

The AR, on the other hand, sounds like a pogo stick.
 
LOL @ "Barbie doll for men". Also seen a gun writer describe it as the "Mr Potato Head" factor.

Also worth mentioning that it has been the first center fire rifle for hundreds of thousands of young Americans over the decades. Given the number of young vets coming out of OEF/ OIF in the past decade, it's probably fair to say another generation has adopted it.
 
keep waiting fatcat. stats and real numbers aside, you can't argue their popularity. do you have anything useful to add?
 
They may be popular but prove they are the best seller, if you can. Looks like an AR did not even make the top ten sales list at buds (2 AKs did)
 
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i don't have to prove anything:D if you don't like the op's choice of words, move on. whether or not the ar is the undeniable best selling rifle or not, really plays no part in the conversation.
 
He said "best selling rifle in america" and I am not allowed to call him out on it?
 
i don't have to prove anything:D if you don't like the op's choice of words, move on. whether or not the ar is the undeniable best selling rifle or not, really plays no part in the conversation.
It does. If the OP states that it is, he should really have some solid evidence to substantiate that statement.
 
call him out for what? what are you going to prove? what's wrong with having a conversation without everyone crying "prove it" all the time?

your mention of two aks being on the top ten list from bud's would make it seem as though you have something to prove. but i digress.

so do you own an ar? how about answering the questions that the op asked that are at the heart of this thread instead if nitpicking.
 
Why do you think is it a hot seller?
Recognition factor as a military platform

Do you have one?
No

Why did you choose the AR-15 platform?
I didnt its as ugly as a Glock

Did you purchase it from a licensed dealer or a private individual?
Its not my cup of tea. I dont need 30 rds to do what my 30-30 or 30-06 can do with 5-7 rounds.

How much ammo do you keep on hand and why?
I keep around 1000 / platform.
 
The AR, on the other hand, sounds like a pogo stick.

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Make statements towards the conversation, not the conversationist. Try to keep it High Road, as whatever bias you believe I may have means little in this particular thread.

Does that qualify as "High road"? You may have conflicted yourself there.

An AR sounds far from a pogo stick--Literally

on the topic, there are no numbers needed. You would think that Considering the M16/AR15 rifle has been used by the Military for decades proves that ...
 
Not much of an AR fan. Owned several but never could really find a use for them. To expensive to target shoot not powerful enough for my hunting needs. Nearly impossible to put on a 4 wheeler rack. Still got my ak's and sks though.
 
The AR, when you total sales from 100+ brands, has got to be one of the top sellers. I'm not going to bother dredging up any figures but how can so many brands stay in business unless they're moving product? ArmaLite, BCM, BM, Colt, CMMG, Daniel Defense, DTI, DPMS, LMT, LaRue, Noveske, PSA, Ruger, S&W, Stag, ... well you get the picture!

It's like Apple claiming to be the best selling computer but actually when you total up scores of Windows/PC builders out there they swamp Apple. The AR is your Windows PC and it dominates these days.
 
First where did you get the information that it is the best selling "type" of rifle in the US? What constitutes a "type" of rifle? I would think a semi-auto, rimfire makes for a "type" of rifle and that "type" far outpaces an AR in sales my friend. For example the biggest selling rifles in this country are made by Ruger, Remington, and Marlin. Remington makes some rimfires and some semi-auto rimfires but Ruger and Marlin both make a huge number of semi-auto rimfires. Ruger does sell other rifles and Marlin sells some but Marlin is a rimfire company as we all would guess. And of the top 25 US arms makers only two specialize in AR type weapons. Those companies would be DPMS and Bushmaster. Both have total sales in the 40,000-50,000 range. Marlin sold over 250,000 rifles in the same time period and Ruger sold 237,000 or so. It would take a whole lot of small companies to make up that kind of ground to make the AR the equal of semi-auto rimfires in terms of sales. You can find this information on this web page.

That's not to say that AR sales aren't booming or that they aren't fine firearms. Both of those things are true. I'll go ahead and answer your questions even though I don't really agree with the premise.

I think the AR is a hot seller because it is a great design with a whole lot of after market parts and most are interchangeable with other AR parts. That makes for a robust platform and a popular one too. The guns are generally accurate and fairly reliable (if you get a good model) and they are just plain fun to shoot and they are an effective weapon for many situations. But I don't think most people buy them to be used as defense weapons because most people live in cities where firing a weapon like that is subject to kill people a long distance away from where you intended to shoot. But some, especially those who live on farms, have a definite use for a weapon of that type for SD.

I do not own an AR although I don't have any particular reason not to. I just already had another platform in place when the AR became more affordable. I have an SKS setup and ready to rock to do the same job the AR is designed to do. No it won't shoot as far accurately but I have other weapons for long range use. I'm good for 300 yards with what I have so that should be plenty for a battle carbine which is what both are. Of course the original AR is a true assault weapon but I don't have a Class III license and I don't have a desire to get one. I couldn't afford to own or shoot a full auto weapon anyway.

I can afford to own an SKS and the ammo it takes to feed it. I don't feel a need to go any further in detailing what exactly I do own. Let's keep the anti's and the government guessing. I have to tell you that when I see a question like this I wonder if big brother is taking a survey to be honest. Why should I give that kind of information to anyone? I will say there are many people who own much more ammo than I do.

call him out for what? what are you going to prove? what's wrong with having a conversation without everyone crying "prove it" all the time?

Wow I didn't see this before I posted. I didn't know we were under a gag order before posting. What's wrong with asking a simple question about where the information came from and showing that it probably isn't true? Are we afraid of the truth?

The AR, when you total sales from 100+ brands, has got to be one of the top sellers. I'm not going to bother dredging up any figures but how can so many brands stay in business unless they're moving product? ArmaLite, BCM, BM, Colt, CMMG, Daniel Defense, DTI, DPMS, LMT, LaRue, Noveske, PSA, Ruger, S&W, Stag, ... well you get the picture!

Actually I "don't" get the picture. There is a list of the top selling arms companies in the US and there are only 2 AR specialists in the top 25 and they are near the bottom. It would take a whole lot of them to catch up to the plethora of rimfire sellers in the US which have numbers that dwarf AR sales in the same list. The link is above for the site. It's from the "US Firearms Industry Today" magazine. Sorry but when a company like DPMS or Bushmaster sales less than 50,000 rifles total I have a hard time believing they will match the totals of companies like Ruger and Marlin which sell 230,000 - 250,000 each most of which will be rimfires. Rimfires have always been the top selling "type" of rifle in the US. I don't see any evidence that has changed. Yes there have been a lot of AR's sold. But not that many. It just isn't going to happen that way. They cost way more than the rimfires. That's the biggest reason right there not to mention they cost far, far more to shoot. I can shoot $75 worth of ammo an hour with my .223 easy and it's a single shot, bolt action. Try doing that with a .22 using bulk ammo, which is what most gun buyers buy. That's always been true.
 
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F But I don't think most people buy them to be used as defense weapons because most people live in cities where firing a weapon like that is subject to kill people a long distance away from where you intended to shoot.

I'm not sure this is totally accurate.

If you live in a city it would seem to me that any and every firearm you might use defensively has MORE than enough effective range to hit innocent bystanders if you fire in an unsafe direction.

Moreover, it's been proven that a properly loaded .223 or 5.56 will penetrate fewer interior walls than many/most handgun or shotgun rounds, which would actually make an AR a better home defense selection, would it not?
 
If you live in a city it would seem to me that any and every firearm you might use defensively has MORE than enough effective range to hit innocent bystanders if you fire in an unsafe direction.

It's not nearly as true of a shotgun outdoors. Yes a shotgun will penetrate walls but it will dissipate energy very quickly after the shot disperses. You won't be able to kill someone at 100 yards with a shotgun unless you're using slugs. You most certainly can do that with a .223. In fact you could kill someone at 1000 yards with a .223 if you hit them just right. That covers way more ground than a shotgun does. It may be true that inside a building a shotgun is just as dangerous but once the bullet or the shot leaves the building the story changes quickly.
 
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