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Best to Worst AR15 list

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by Ruger, Jan 8, 2009.

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  1. Ruger

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    Happy New Year to all. 38 year shooter and hunter , and yes I know the difference. Please do not take that the wrong way . I am looking to add one AR15 maybe two? to my collection . I would like to know your thoughts about which of them would be on the high side - to the low side of the list. Since it would be the first AR that I purchase, I'm looking to mainly have it be something I can just have some fun with and later on add all the goodies as time goes by. If I was lucky enough to have a second I might use to hunt with just, to change it up a little. My hunting rifles are Win 70 270cal, Win 70 300wsm, Win pre 64 243 cal and ruger 44cal and a inline 50cal muzzle loader. So an AR would be different for me. Well I dont want to ramble on. So if your inclined to make a list from good to bad or best to worst, I will not hold anyone accountable for their suggestions, Im sure a post as been asked liked this before but I cant seem to find one at this time . Thank You to all who apply Ruger .
     
  2. gvnwst

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    High side: Noveske, POF-USA, LMT, and if you want accuracy, Les Baer. Some will say Colt, and that can be on the list too.


    Low side: Vulcan-Hessan (i think i spelled that correctly)
     
  3. TexasRifleman

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    Isn't there still an AWB of some sort in New York state? Can't remember.

    That said, if you have no legal issues the list above is where I'd be looking for the best stuff.

    If I were buying today I'd probably buy Noveske.
     
  4. geronimo509

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    I really like my stag arms 2T. Its the right handed model.
     
  5. lipadj46

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    Yes but you can own an AR if it does not have a flash suppressor or a threaded muzzle to accept one or any other evil attribute as it already has a removable mag and pistol grip.
     
  6. gvnwst

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    Didn't notice he was in NY...Well, that makes it harder, most of those companies models have just that....
     
  7. Duke of Doubt

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    I like DPMS and Bushmaster. Both are now owned by Cerberus. Prices have skyrocketed recently. Thank Circe I got my DPMS a few months ago in a trade. A good friend has a bantime-Bushmaster, but the lower receiver is all that is left of the original now.
     
  8. Ruger

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    Best AR15

    Thank You for your reply. I should have put in by bio that I live in NY state in the country not in NY city. I downloaded the up to date Firearms laws 4 days ago and I am still readind them LOL. The city has different laws on the books as the rest of the state. For ex: I have been a cc permit holder for 26 years., and yes I am a NY state resi. born and bred. But I can not carry in any of the buroughs of the city because I'm a country boy who lives in the woods, but yet a person who lives in or has a city issue permit can come into my back yard pakin no questions ask. Doesn't seem right were both residents of new york state , but thats the law. I dont know anything about Noveske, I will check out their site and see if theres any dealers near me. If your interested in the site for ny laws I can post it thanks
     
  9. Ruger

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    I was watching shooting usa last night They had a new DPMS model sportactical. Has anybody seen one yet? looked nice
     
  10. lipadj46

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    All the companies should be able to put a compliant barrel on an AR but it probably will be a custom order unless it is a match grade rife with a heavy barrel and does not have a FS. If you just want an AR for fun or hunting I would get a nice LMT or if you don't want to spend as much get a Bushmaster. A bunch of people have bought the Sportactical recently and seem to like it. Just mind the Assault Weapon laws like I said so FH or threaded barrel on a AR. The only popular rife we cannot get in NY is the AK but we can buy the Saigas.
     
  11. Ruger

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    Yes we can have and purchase AR's provided that what ever they have from the factory is already on the rifle at time of purchase . Flash supp and muzzle are find as lond as their welded on from factory I believe as I'm still reading the laws. sometimes you need a lawer as I'm only just a graduate.
     
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    IIRC, muzle brakes are allowed, but no flash suppressor. Best thing is probably to go with a bull barrel with a target crown, no attacchment at all.

    A question, how much $$$ do you ahve for this? Noveske and POF are well over 1.5K...
     
  13. Ruger

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    Their selling S&W MP/15 in 5.56 at Gander Mountain for $800.00-899.00 Which have a muzzle brake and/or flash suppersor already on them
     
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    In my own oppinion (this works for me) not everyone that I usally don't look at price provided your getting the quality that your paying for. sometimes I have to wait a little longer to own . But I want what I want when I want it ,and there is never an issue from my better half as long as it will not hurt us financily she is a very good girl. never one to question, why do you need it or whats it for Im very lucky
     
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    I really like the Rock Rivers but that might be just a little to much for the first one I plan to have a few
     
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    Okay, so you are saying that price doesn't matter as long as you get quality? Then it is really just research, find which company has the set of specs that you would like, and get it. For a "standard" AR, Stag, RRA, Bushmaster, and a few others are about half the price of my top list.
     
  17. TexasRifleman

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    So I will tell you what I say all the time, though it angers the high speed low drag crowd:

    99% of the ARs on the market are perfectly fine for 99% of the shooters out there and, if you happen to be in that 1%, you know it and you don't ask the question.

    Or, you are doing some kind of competitive shooting and if you are doing that, you also tend to know what you need.

    I buy higher end stuff, but it's because I like it. I have no delusions that I'm going to do a HALO drop into Houston to save the city from a Cuban/Russian invasion :)
     
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    I bought a POF, but that is simply becasue i wanted the quality, and some of my guns get pushed hard in comparison to my buddies guns. I would have been happy with a Bushy or RRA, but i wanted that extra quality, and the barrel that is on it was just icing on the cake.:D (it is a rock creek barrel, they make some of the best barrels in the world)
     
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    I am not being rude but please read the laws again as what you have above is not correct at all. FS are not allowed on a AR with a pistol grip and it really does not matter what the factory configuration was an assault weapon is an assault weapon (unless it is pre-ban, 1994, but good luck with that). If you have a threaded barrel you can weld on a muzzle break or some how else permanently attach it and be compliant. PM me if you want a synopsis of NY assault weapon law. I am not a lawyer though so take my advice for what it is worth (free).
     
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    texasrifleman said it well.

    that S&W would be a great start and it seems like a good price if it's legal for you to own.
     
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    So get what you want in the price range you want and know that your choice is correct.
    Only brand that people will consistently say to stay away from would be Vulcan/Hesse. Others add Olympic as well.

    But any of the rest of the companies out there make a fine rifle: Bushmaster, RRA, Stag, LMT, Colt, etc etc
     
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    Flash suppressors are a no-no but a muzzle brake on a threaded barrel that could possibly accomodate a flash suppressor is also a no-no.

    from: http://www.nysrpa.org/nygunlaws.htm

    So you can have an AR but it can only have the pistol grip. It would be illegal if it also has any one of the following:
    -telescoping/folding stock
    -bayonet lug
    -flash suppressor/threaded barrel
    -grenade launcher
     
  23. IndianaBoy

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    Avoid anything made by Blackthorne, Hesse, or Vulcan.


    Everything else is pretty much all the same.

    I know by saying that, I am inviting someone to drag out 'the chart'.

    Having put several thousand rounds through my AR this year, and not having had one problem yet because my barrel might not be parkerized under the FSB.. i don't much care what the chart says. ;)
     
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    The best AR is the one you own and mine is a Noveske upper on a POF lower.
    The worst AR is any of them that are pointed at you.
     
  25. moooose102

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    The best ar-15 is the one in your hands. The worst is the one that barak obama takes away!
     
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