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Best Tomahawk?

Discussion in 'Non-Firearm Weapons' started by Tired_and_hungry, Aug 28, 2013.

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  1. mdauben

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    Most "tactical hawks" are spiked, but I know at least CRKT makes their's in both a spiked and hammer pol version (see below)

    Actually, it you look closely the CRKT has both a sharpened beard and a sharpened top edge, too. If I had an actual need for a "tactical hawk" I would look seriously at the CRKT Kangee or Chogan .

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    So as not to sound like a total CRKT fanboy, I'll say that for a general purpose outdoor tool, I would pick a Cold Steel Trail Hawk (which is currently hanging from my daypack, actually). It's relatively light, inexpensive and durable. Its not my first choice for major wood processing, but for occasional light chopping and splitting it works fine once you put a good edge on it.
     
  2. Officers'Wife

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    Hi Tirod,

    The "corn knife" has been around roughly forever and still available if you have a need for one enough to look. I use one to cut willow saplings off the Iroquois river when I need to re-cane the antique kitchen chairs.

    Corn Knife
     
  3. USAF_Vet

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    I've got a SOG tactical tomahawk (black) and a Cold Steel Norse hawk. I prefer the Norse hawk.

    The 'Viet Nam' hawks with the spikes like the SOG don't suit my needs for a nice hand axe. The Norse hawk blade is nice and wide. Just my $0.02
     
  4. Tirod

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    The SOG and Cold Steel definitely are popular, the Kangee is fairly new and definitely more expensive. The UC is an inexpensive offshore product, the usual caution there is advised - you get what you pay for.

    However, the OP hasn't responded to the question of how it will be used. If I got the thread off track, my bad. Knowing the specific intent of use is important, tho. One difficulty I have is reading too much into a question that is phrased, "What's the best?" It implies we all accept the exact same standards to measure the tool by. In reality, there are numerous contradictory standards and no one tool can do it all. Compromises have to be introduced, there is no winner take all.

    The angle of the edge, the weight of the tool, the handle length, method of securing the head to the handle, what other feature might be on the other side and it's emphasis, what kind of grip, it's texture, and even it's circumference all make differences that add up, tilting the usefulness of each product toward one side or the other. It's entirely why we have different tools - saying "which hammer is the best?" means comparing a framing hammer vs cabinet makers vs ball peen vs hand sledge. They all hammer, none does much good outside it's specific intent.

    Without knowing the specific tasks the tool is being used for, we can't say which might be better for the job. I think that is one thing most of us can agree on - there is rarely a tool that is "best," but there are tools that are better for doing certain things, and if the OP is being sincere, then those tasks need to be specified in detail.
     
  5. JShirley

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    OfficersWife,

    That's very interesting. I found this when I searched.
     
  6. Sam Cade

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    That is what this started out life as:
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    It is my 7 year olds and he didn't want the grip perfectly finished. He is funny about stuff sometimes.
    Note how he engraved an eye for accuracy and teeth for sharpness. :D



    Locally tobacco cutters are about a 50/50 split between big honkin' knives of various types with a strong preference for a squared tip and the task specific long handled tobacco knife.
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    That used to be a corn sickle?
     
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    On a related note, I've got a couple of those TSC eastern pattern sickles. Sold has "Hand sickle" IIRC.
    Thoroughly decent tools.

    With 18" machete for scale:
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    1/8" thick SK-5.
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    Nice blades. I want to get a CS rifleman hawk.
     
  12. JShirley

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    If that's a $12 SK-5 sickle, that seems like a great price.
     
  13. Sam Cade

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    It seems to be an excellent tool. The grind is asymmetrical. 3/4 height shallow scandi on the side not shown in the above pic.


    Sometimes I get the urge to knock the tubular handle off of one of the ones I have and make the mother of all ringless kerambits.:evil:
     
  14. Pete D.

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    Tomahawk.

    I have about eight or so tomahawks. The only one with a hammer poll is the Trail Hawk, nice for woods cruising. The others are all used for throwing and are smaller and lighter. The largest of that bunch is a Cold Steel Frontier Hawk. It is a good thrower though I found the handle a bit too long and cut it back to 20 inches....may bob it a bit more yet. It is the heaviest of the bunch, most of which come from Track of the Wolf and are specifically for throwing.
    I did remove the little set screw from the Frontier hawk and refitted the handle. Having a screw kinda defeats the purpose of the "cone/friction fit" common in throwing hawks. You want the handle to pop out if it hits badly.
    Curious about the earlier Estwing comments....does Estwing make a tomahawk?
    Pete
     
  15. Sam Cade

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    In the original sense of "tomahawk" meaning a light hand axe, the answer is of course yes.

    If your query is, "Does Estwing make a light hand axe with a spike opposite the blade?" the answer is also yes.

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  16. JShirley

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    Okay, tomahawk originally meant war club. It had become synonymous with "hatchet" by the American Revolution.

    John
     
  17. Sam Cade

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    In any case, it is a worth with interesting etymology.

    http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?allowed_in_frame=0&search=tomahawk&searchmode=none

    http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/tomahawk


    Edit: and a quick article from JSTOR on the origin of the term and its usage:

    http://www.jstor.org/stable/659577
     
  18. JShirley

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    I don't feel like re-doing my own research, done for the review of Troy's hawk.

    But here's my footnote: Conlin Taylor, Native American Weapons, (London: University of Oklahoma Press, 2001), 16-30.

    John
     
  19. Critical J

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    'hawk talk

    Well, here's mine. it's lasted this long, that's all I can really say but it did help us chop our way out of a micro downburst that struck our campsite in FL, once upon a time. It is nice to have one when the need arises, that's for sure...
     

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    Here is mine. Not into the "tacticool" thing. It is a shrew hawk, a bit smaller than most but very light and handy. Very sharp and the hammer poll is handy to have around camp and in the woods. I have added a paracord wrap to the bottom 1/3 of the handle for better grip and comfort, no pics of that though.

    Specs and info here.
    http://shrewbows.com/shrewhawk/

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  21. RyanM

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    Didn't a lot of styles of war "club" have stone blades on them?
     
  22. JShirley

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    Yes. After enough hatchets became available, the old war clubs became increasingly rare.
     
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    I want a CS Trail hawk. For now I'll settle on a SOG Fast hawk. tom. :cool:
     
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    I don't have much use for a hawk with a spike on it, in fact I've never found much use for one at all. If I was to get one it wouldn't have a spike on the end to gouge a hole in my skull. I won't be fighting with one, thats for sure.
     
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