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Biden Tells Boston Mayor That Gun Control Will be Implemented “by the end of January”

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  1. Carpedium

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    Article from the Boston Herald. Did a search and could not find a previous post.

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  2. Carpedium

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    It seems to me that the only way this is going to happen is through Executive order, no? Congress seems to be pretty busy with financial issues. Ideas?
     
  3. bikerdoc

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    Menino's nickname among his detractors is "Mumbles". Twofold reasons, he does mumble, and he is regularly used to by others who mumble something to him to repeat.

    Whatever the Biden group recommends it still has to be voted by congress.
     
  4. Carpedium

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    I hope you are right!
     
  5. Carl N. Brown

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    Democrats ought to be concerned after Obama's last term about being permanently identified as the gun ban party in the minds of the voting public. They do it by their own words and blaming NRA, "Faux News" (whose owner Rupert Murdoch is a gun ban supporter FCOL) does not shift the blame.

    Democrats do need independent voters who are not necessarily fans of bans like D.C. or Chicago, or defacto bans like the way the Sullivan Act is implemented in New York City.
     
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    Does this mean the call is more recent than the Dec. appointment of VP Biden to head the presidential commission that is supposed to study the causes of violence and seek real solutions to those causes or was it before and is no just being reported by the Mayor?
     
  7. Carpedium

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    No Idea. I would hope that a study on the causes of violence is not limited to gun control, though.
     
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    Here are several of the underlying causes of what's wrong with this country:

    Response: Kids get guns by stealing them, which they will keep doing regardless of any new laws. Criminals make their way through life breaking laws--any laws that stand in their way.

    Response: When re-election becomes the President's (or any politician's) most pressing issue, we've lost any hope of rational, patriotic leadership that is in any way of the people, by the people, and for the people. Politicians whose self interests outweigh the interests of the people they represent (re-election benefits the politician far more than the people) need to be voted out.

    Response: Knee-jerk, emotional outcries from media-saturated sheeple are not a rationale for legislation, but as we have heard from the current administration, we shouldn't let a good crisis go to waste.
     
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  9. Bartholomew Roberts

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    A couple of factual points: the Senate will not have the first day of its session until January 22nd - that just leaves 9 days for a gun control bill to clear the Senate. In the House, the head of the Judiciary Committe is NRA A-rated and has already said gun control is off the table - so no new gun control is likely to originate in the House.

    For Biden to make good on his guarantee, they would need to originate a bill in the Senate, get it on the Calendar, pass it, get the measure to the House, get it on the House Calendar, pass it and have it signed in under 9 days. That would be difficult to do even with uncontroversial legislation.

    Even if Biden did say something that outlandish, Menino knows enough about politics to know that he is being fed BS. So why is he selling it to the Boston Herald?
     
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    Must bills passed by the Senate be heard by House Committees before being brought to a floor vote in the House?
     
  11. Carpedium

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    That is exactly what I am wondering. Just thought that it could be some "executive order" until the USSC knocks it down.
     
  12. Bartholomew Roberts

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    Typically a gun control bill passed in the Senate would have to go through the House Judiciary Committee, and then to the floor. There are exceptions to that; but most bills go through the same procedure.
     
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    Biden is always putting his foot in his mouth. he's been doing it for years.
     
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    I hope you are correct about Biden.
     
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