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Biggest bang for my buck (poll inside)

Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by brow_tines, Jan 13, 2013.

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Unique or Bulleye

Poll closed Feb 12, 2013.
  1. Unique

    47 vote(s)
    37.6%
  2. Bullseye

    30 vote(s)
    24.0%
  3. Other please elaborate

    8 vote(s)
    6.4%
  4. I love pie

    40 vote(s)
    32.0%
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  1. brow_tines

    brow_tines Member

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    OK I'm wanting to downsize my number of different powders for pistols. These are the calibers that I load for and will load for eventually 9,38/357,40,44,45.
    With that being said I was thinking about Bullseye or Unique, I know that one powder isn't the best for all calibers and with the 44 in the mix I might and to buy a different type of powder for it.
    But, help me narrow it down for the best bang for my buck :)
     
  2. hueyville

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    If you only want to stock one Unique is my choice.
     
  3. jwrowland77

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    If you only want to stock one for all those use either Unique or Universal. It'll cover that entire spread.
     
  4. wankerjake

    wankerjake Member

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    I DO love pie, and voted as such.

    Unique would go a long way for what you listed, titegroup would be another one to look at. W231... I would probably have a couple different powders on hand, myself.
     
  5. Rollis R. Karvellis

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    Unique for the non magnum
    2400 for thd magnum
    Pie rules. Both type's.
     
  6. Kevin Rohrer

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    Safety over quality means Unique or other bulky powder over economy. Eyes are hard to replace.
     
  7. Hagen442

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    To Down Size Differenrt Powders

    Clays and American Select Cover the Majority of my Smokeless Reloading Needs
    My Common Smokeless Reloads are As Follows:
    12 and 20 Gauge ShotShell
    38 Special ,38 Colt Short , 45ACP , 45Long Colt , 44 Magnum , 40 S&W and 9MM Luger

    00
     
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  8. Blue68f100

    Blue68f100 Member

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    I voted Pie....

    If Unique will meter in your dispenser good. It does not in mine. Both of those powders burn dirty compared to what I use.

    Using only one powder will limit you. Neither are good for mag loads.
     
  9. Lost Sheep

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    How do you quantify "Bang"

    When I started shooting and loading, I used 2400 in my .357 Magnum on the recommendation of a friend. When I went to buy my second pound of powder, I chose Bullseye because it was the most energy-dense powder I could find (that is, it gave me more shots per pound than any other listed in my loading manual). Bangs per buck.

    Now that I know a little bit more and have more sophisticated appreciation for velocity, payload and pressure, slower burning powders like H110. You can get several times fewer shots per pound (or dollar) but those shots max out the velocity, momentum and energy for the pressure. Bang for buck.

    See the difference?

    If I shot long-distance rifle, I might choose something completely different. Smaller groups would be the "bang" I seek and a few cents, nickles or dimes per round saved would be irrelevant.

    How do you measure YOUR bang you seek?

    Lost Sheep

    p.s. I like cobbler.
    edit: Thanks buck460XVR. My favorite pie is Walnut pie (while growing up, we had a walnut tree in our back yard and Mom made Pecan pies using Walnuts instead. ) So, Berry Cobbler or Pecan pie. Now I have a hankering, darn it!
     
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  10. ljnowell

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    AA#2 and 2400. You can load anything.
     
  11. James2

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    Unique if you want only one powder for these rounds.

    However, as noted, if you are after top velocity in some of these rounds, Unique won't give it to you.

    I voted Pie. It doesn't bother me to buy a pound of powder for a specific caliber to get the best results (translated highest velocity). If best results is your "Bang" then this is the way to go.

    As pointed out by Lost Sheep, If you are looking for the most loads per pound and hence the most "Bangs" per $, then go for one of the faster burning powders that require less powder per round.

    I have loaded lots of 44 Mag with Unique. Though it doesn't give the highest velocity for the caliber, it does give a good robust round that is a pleasure to shoot.

    I suspect that in the end you will do as most of us have, and try several powders, and eventually find what you like the best for each caliber. I think that is why we like to reload. Have fun!
     
  12. buck460XVR

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    Well said Lost Sheep. Only thing I could add is that sometimes performance costs. I have a friend that reloads and he only buys powder on sale and the powder he can get the most rounds outta. He then uses these powders for all his loads. He admits that they are not the best for all applications, but claims they work "good enough". Is "good enough" why we reload? Not me, one reason I have 2-3 powders available for every handgun caliber I reload for. Whether it's mouse fart, medium velocity or full blown hunting loads, I want the best performance possible. Regardless of what others claim, I have yet to find any powder that works well in all applications. Powder is cheap compared to the cost of throwing bullets downrange who's accuracy is just "good enough".

    Me....I like pie too, especially if it's Pecan!
     
  13. BGD

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    I would go with Unique, But I would have to keep H110 for the 44 mag.:)
     
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    231 will work for them all but I don't try to use one for everything anymore.
     
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    I like Pop Tarts

    and Unique
     
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    I use Unique with good results. My 44 Mag loads are mid range.
     
  17. Jesse Heywood

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    I have to agree with Unique for a universal powder. My results with the faster burning powders (bullseye, red dot, AA#2, titegroup) in magnum pressure rounds have not been that great. Another powder that I have had good results with is IMR 700-X. For the magnum pressure my favorite is 4227, my second choice is 800-X (which meters like dried cow chips). I haven't tried 2400, which seems to be a favorite here.

    Forgot that I make a good chocolate pie.
     
  18. GW Staar

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    Been using Unique for 40 years....been going to try silhouette....powerpistol, and some others....but no pressure to hurry. But if I could only have one, that'd be it. 2400 or H110 are better for magnums, though.

    Pie? I look forward to spring for one important reason....Fresh Strawberry Pie covered with Whipping Cream.....thanks to places like Ponchatoula Louisiana, where they ripen acres and acres of them in April.:) Only problem .... is getting them to New Mexico.
     
  19. boommer

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    Unique works in shotgun, pistol , rifle even up to 45-70 and such. maybe not top in all but the most versatile.
     
  20. bluetopper

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    Powder is the cheapest component in reloading, why limit yourself right from ther start. Experimenting is more than half the fun.
    Also, the more I try Accurate brand powders the more I like them.
     
  21. 56hawk

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    I voted Bullseye since you can load just about any pistol round with it. And since the charge weights are so small, it seems to last forever. The only problem is that for 357 and 44 you will only be able to load target rounds. Really need to get a couple pounds of H110 for the full power loads.
     
  22. Mel1776

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    Pecan 1st

    or

    Mincemeat 2nd
     
  23. Mel1776

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    Oh, one powder, I'd go with Unique.
     
  24. John C

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    Unique is the best bet for what you want to do. I personally chose Universal, which is a very similar powder. Universal meters better, and can be used in almost all the same applications as Unique. It's also cleaner.

    -John
     
  25. ArchAngelCD

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    If there's only one it's W231/HP-38 for me but I use my "Powder Trinity", W231 (HP-38), W540 (HS-6) and W296 (H110).
     
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