Black Talons not made since '96

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Not because, as is the common perception, they killed too many cops.. But because they were instantly recognizable.
Ammo makers want anonymity, if you can't prove who made a bullet you can't sue the maker

Words of wisdom from Detective John, Butt, Munch of Law and Order.

Anybody else ever want to kick a TVs ass
 
I stopped watching law and order about 6 months ago. Which is saying a lot since I live at home and my parents watch it religiously (even the repeats :barf: )
 
"What kills me is that Ice-t is a cop on the show."

Right on - i wonder what the little hypocrite pulls down playin' da evvvvvull man.

The rounds instantly became much less lethal when renamed.

I just hope I'm raggin' on the right Ice - Vanilla, cube, T, they all start to run together.
 
Yeah, at first they changed the name to Ranger SXT ""Law Enforcement"" ammunition, and recently they have changed the actual appearance of the rounds.
The black (left over from the BT days) bullet is now copper colored like everything else out there, and the gold case is now silver. I guess it looks a lot more friendly to all the sheeple out there.
The hollow point design itself, flesh-tearing claws :evil: and all, is the only thing that's left.

R.I.P. :( :( :(
 
I just hope I'm raggin' on the right Ice - Vanilla, cube, T, they all start to run together
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I you're talking about the one that sparked the controversy over the kill the cops "song" yeah that's him. I still get a kick outta him playing a cop, almost as funny as watching him try to act.
 
I usually don't watch TV I keep it on for background noise to drown out the tinnitus ring. But that exchange caught my ear.
Now I have to watch it to see if there any more righteous indignation inspiring exchanges
 
I don't have it bad, it's been getting better somehow, but when my ringing was really annoying I found water was the best medicine. It's not cool to leave a tap running into a sink though, but I see small fountains in some stores. I'd definately reccommend trickling water noise over crappy tv nosie :)
 
I'd definately reccommend trickling water noise over crappy tv nosie
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Bought one of those electric stone/slate fountains a couple oif days ago, just have'nt put it together yet, but it's gonna have to be loud
 
I used to watch SVU. But then it got old. Same stories over again, with a different twist, the crimes growing more and more heinous, I grew tired of it. And of course, guns were not accurately portrayed. I remember one episode where Benson and Stabler are investigating a shooting. One looks at the victim with 3 bullets in his head and says something like, I bet those were hollowpoints, with disdain and frustation as if using FMJ's would have only bruised the victim. Another episode showed a homemade dum-dum which someone had filed notches into to improve expansion (?). I'm not sure a hack job like that would help a whole lot. But of course, the cops again expressed frustation.
It's my understanding that without medical attention, a hit to the vital organs with most any bullet is pretty deadly. A hollowpoint may incapacitate, kill, or stop faster than FMJ, but FMJ's are still bullets. In your vitals.
 
What a very thinly veiled supportive argument for the serialization of bullets.

:barf:

brad cook
 
Not that I wish to defend this particular bit of idiocy, but consider the source: Munch is a proponent of every crackpot conspiracy theory ever hatched. This fits right in with his more-than-slightly paranoid personality. :p
 
Another episode showed a homemade dum-dum which someone had filed notches into to improve expansion (?).
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We used to to that with BP revolvers when I first started gettig into guns,listened to too many old war stories I guess. I was very underimpressed with the results.
Munch is a proponent of every crackpot conspiracy theory ever hatched.
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Yea he's my favorite comedian now. I believe that Richard Belzer astually started out as comedian
 
He was a cop in New Jack City before he even wrote CopKiller.

He also played an ex-cop, cop-attitude character in Tank Girl.

Honestly he's not half bad as an actor, better (my opinion only) than he was as a musician, anyhow.

He apparently likes to play to a certain "perception" of the police, and he does a decent job of it - and yes, it's an intentionally biased perspective.

-K
 
Temp thread hijack: Can a civilian buy Ranger SXT anywhere?

A gunstore/range (Bullseye) in Tacoma told me they'd sell to LEO only when it came to Ranger SXT. I asked why and they couldn't give me an answer (couldn't even make up a BS answer). I can find online sources that sell the low-recoil Federal LEO shotgun loads but I haven't tracked down a place that sells Ranger SXT.
 
Ranger SXT.
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I have seen it but honestly don't remember where.

I don't think that I would ever pay what I think I remember was the really high price for them.

As somebody else stated FMJ will get you out of most jams and what they won't HP will.

And I'm not totally willing to dismiss the theory that a DA can vilify a righteous shooting based on the use of certain ammo.
 
I found some on gunbroker and glocktalk. Mostly 9mm looks like. And pricey I bet. (I just saw it in a search engine)

BTW, Winchester's designation for it is RA??T
The ?? is caliber. i.e. RA9T for 9mm, RA45T for 45 etc.
 
Just read Mute's post I guess we were writing at the same time.

I guess I was wrong on the high price
 
If you are referring to 5532JWK run a search he has numerous good feedbacks on a wide variety of boards including this one. I've ordered from him myself with no problems.
 
Ahh, thanks for the votes of confidence; I didn't realize. I'll have to buy a box or two as a "present" for my friend and fire his 1911 :D
 
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