Blackhawk in 327 FM?

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  1. ontarget

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    Ive been on the hunt for a 32 H&R mag for a while now. I came across a very nice Blackhawk in 327 and I was hoping to get a bit of feedback from the group here.
    Yeah, I know...Blackhawk...whats the problem?
    No problem, just wondering how they perform with 32 H&R?
    I put the cart before the horse this time and bought a box full of new brass, bullets, and a set of dies for 32 H&R, so now I need a gun to shoot them!
    So what do you all think?
     
  2. Frulk

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    Do you have .327 FM brass? I was unaware the BH was made in .327 FM. Pics please

    Also. I need to confirm this but I think I’m using Lee .32 H&R dies to load .327FM. I’ll double check that.

    Never mind…looks like you’re still considering the BH. I’d already have that home and be loading for it.

    And back to the topic at hand. I shot some 32 H&R through a GP 100, in an SP 101 and one single seven. That I remember accuracy was fine. Think 100 grain XTPs and 120 grain hard casts. I’ve Not shot them enough to be concerned about a carbon ring developing. Others might weigh in on this. That wouldn’t be a concern for me because a cylinder is relatively easy to clean.
     
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  3. ontarget

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    Haven't bought it yet. I don't really have any interest in shooting 327 mag, so it will no doubt see 99% H&R mag loads or even 32 long if i do grab it. At the moment the seller is quite proud of it judging by the price, so I'm hoping it will come down a bit.
     
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  4. Riomouse911

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    I just bought an SP 101,.327 to pair with my Bisley Single Six .32 H&R. The SP shot fine with both cartridges, I don’t think you will have an issue with the Blackhawk firing 32’s either.

    A shooting times write up on that gun from 2010.

    https://www.shootingtimes.com/editorial/handgun_reviews_st_thrilling32_201007/99361

    I used my Lee .32 H&R die set to load the two .327 loads I cooked up, both using AA#9.

    If you buy the Blackhawk let us know your impressions :thumbup:.

    Stay safe.
     
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  5. LOLBELL

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    The only problem with the 327 Blackhawk is finding one and it would seem you’ve solved that problem. The Blackhawk was my first 327. It very quickly became a favorite of mine. Since the Birdhead Single Seven came in the picture it’s now at the top of the list but the B/H is right up there.
    I don’t shoot a lot of 32 HR in mine but what I have was just fine. I usually just download to 32 HR levels in 327 brass.
    If the B/H has a downside it’s the weight for caliber thing, it is heavy for a 32, but you do get an 8 shooter.
    If you choose not to buy it, I’m sure someone here would like to know where it’s located. There’s a following that really desire the 327 Blackhawk. I would be interested myself but already own 2, an all stainless and a Pinto model, it’s stainless with a blued cylinder and ejector housing.
     
  6. Bush Pilot

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    Can you post a picture of the Pinto model? Thx
     
  7. TTv2

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    They're very rare and cost a lot. If you want a single action .327, go with the Single Seven, much smaller and appropriately sized for the caliber and you only lose 1 round.
     
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  8. LOLBELL

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    I’ll try
     
  9. ontarget

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    What i want is a SA 32 H&R mag. However I have seen none in a few years locally.
    I passed up a GP100 in 327 a year ago and have regretted it ever since.
     
  10. LOLBELL

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    https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?threads/revolver-pics.900938/page-8#post-12206305

    Bush, I couldn’t figure out how, but here’s a link to a post I made a while back. You may have to scroll down a little to see it. It’s on page 8 in the thread “Revolver Pics”. A little further down is a picture of the Birdshead. The Birdshead is on page 9
     
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  11. TTv2

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    Ruger makes a Bisley model I've thought off and on about as I believe they make those with smaller throats, but I come to my senses and realize that .001" larger throats isn't enough of a dealbreaker to give up the extra round and more power of .327. Not that I'd plan to shoot a lot of .327 in it.
     
  12. dickydalton

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    There is a Blackhawk on GB right now. And a couple Single Sevens. Prices? $$$$$$$$
     
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  13. Tallball

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    Buy it if you want it. If you pay a reasonable price you can always get most of your money back out of it later if you decide you don't want it after all.

    I really like Blackhawks and I really like 32 revolvers, so I'm definitely an enabler here.
     
  14. CraigC
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    IMHO, the large frame Blackhawk is too much gun for the .357 and way too much for the .327. I'd hold out for a Single Six.
     
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    I agree! Once I had 357 Magnum Ruger large frame Bisley. Very soon I've got rid of it, too much steel for a caliber. I purchased 41 Magnum Bisley and never looked back.

    For the same weight reason, I am considering selling S&W 686, 6", and getting Security Six, 6".
     
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  16. Seedy Character

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    Seen a .32 H&R Single Six at Gun Show, last weekend. It was very difficult to walk away, but I want the .327, BH or Single .

    Shooting .32 H&R in the BH is fun, fun and fun.
     
  17. gpb

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    I have a SP101 with a 4.25 barrel in 327 Fed Mag. It's an enjoyable cartridge. Since I'm a reloader and cast my own bullets, I'm able to get the most out of the cartridge's versatility.

    For my use the SP101 seems to be about the right sized frame for the cartridge. I really wouldn't want a frame much larger than a S&W K frame for that cartridge.

    I also have a Blackhawk in 357 Magnum. To me the Blackhawk already seems large for the 357 Magnum. To me the Blackhawk just seems too large for the 327 Fed Mag.

    If it was me, I'd try to handle a Blackhawk in 327 Fed Mag before I spent the money.
     
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    I am also on a look out for anything .327. Prefer single action, but GP100-style or 3 inch SP101 would be desired as well.
    I recently ordered .32 H&R adapter for Mosin, and once I get it and try out, will go back to the maker and ask if they could make a .327 FM adapter. Overall, i would like to slowly build up a pistol+carbine+rifle conversion setup for this cartridge.
    Given its capabilities ranging from carry-ready self-d, to varmint hunting, to deer hunting -- I think it be with us for a long time, it is un-explainable why revolver makers are not supporting it.
    I have heard that Taurus introduced a new snubby in .327 FM, but did not look into it yet
     
  19. TTv2

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    I guess the reason why the .30 Carbine never caught on in the Blackhawk, apart from the blast/noise level (amazing how blast is only an issue to some if it's a caliber smaller than .357) is the size of the revolver for the caliber.

    Yet Ruger still makes them and gave up on the .327 BH. Odd.
     
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    I figured the picture thing out again BP
     
  21. LOLBELL

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    Here’s the all stainless along with a 327 Single Seven
     
  22. Seedy Character

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    Ballistics between. 327 and .30 Carbine are almost identical.

    I love my .30 Carbine, but it really needs that 7 1/2" barrel. I don't reload with H110. Much prefer Unique, Lil Gun, Clay's, 4227 or 2400
     
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    Ballistics may be the same with a long barrel, but from a shorter barrel the .327 has the .30 Carbine beat. Also, accuracy wise, I rarely hear good reports of the. 30 in the BH. In revolvers, cartridges that headspace off the rim will always have an edge in accuracy and performance over those that are rimless and headspace off the case mouth and lack a roll crimp.

    If rimless calibers in revolvers were so accurate, we'd see them used more in target or silhouette competitions.

    One thing the .327 will always have over the .30 is prevalence in smaller frame revolvers that are DA meant for conceal carry. That and ability to shoot lower power ammo like .32 Mag or .32 S&W Long.
     
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  24. GarrettJ

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    I bought a .327 Blackhawk a couple years ago. The thought was to replace the .30 Carbine Blackhawk so I didn’t have to stock both .308” and .312” bullets in essentially the same weights.

    As noted, ballistics are about the same for the two. The .30 Carbine seems to have an edge in velocity, but it has a couple more inches of barrel length.

    Having said that, it seems to have an edge in accuracy as well. So I never quite got around to selling that one either. I can hit an 8x10 steel plate at 100 yards with either more often than not, so I’m not going to complain.

    Recoil in the heavy revolver isn’t an issue. People talk about the loud blast for either of those cartridges. And yes it’s there, but no worse than a full power .357 Mag. I wouldn’t recommend shooting any of those without hearing protection. And with it you’re fine.

    I can’t comment on shooting the shorter .32 cartridges through the Blackhawk. I don’t think I’ve ever tried it. I have a Single Six to run those through.
     
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  25. Krusty

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    There's a Single Six on a local forum in 32 H&R mag with case hardened frame and birds head grip for $550. Looks to be a nice revolver. The grip frame is brass. 4.25 inch barrel.

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