Blackpowder Handgun -- revolver or pistol?

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Awe Mec!!! Come on! Tell me you're fooling around! You shot those groups duelist, while blindfolded and smoking a cigarette, singing the national anthem and signing your soul away to the devil! :D

-mario.
 
Awe Mec!!! Come on! Tell me you're fooling around! You shot those groups duelist,-YEP while blindfolded NOPE-1.25 DIOPTER READING GLASSES and smoking a cigarette (Pipe), singing the national anthem ROLL ME OVER IN THE CLOVER and signing your soul away to the devil- THE DIVIL FAR BEHIND ME WALLOWING IN HIS OWN IXCREMENT
 
Pretty good response old timer. Did you really bench it? By the way, maybe you can help me make up my mind. I'm gonna buy a Ruger Old Army. The problem is the decision- I could buy the target model which is used but in excellent condition and from the 70's, or I could buy a fixed site version (both 7-1/2 barrels) brand new in the box and for fifty dollars cheaper. I really want the target after having bad luck with my 1858's front site not moving, but is the ruger Old Armies fixed sight model as accurate as the Target model? Why but the target over the fixed sightl? what's the advantage that I'm not thinking about besides having another problem like I had with my 1858 Uberti? :confused:

-mario.
 
the target is the one I have. The fixed sights came along just to let gamesmen shoot modern revolvers in the CAS shoots. I'm all for having the adj. sight option on these revolvers.

the only thing I used the bench for was to hold all my gear.
 
Now your talking! That's what a bench is for! I guess you've helped me make up my mind. I think I'm going for the Ruger Old Army Target model. I almost feel like the brand new one is just too good to be true, maybe it's a scam? Either way I was already compromising by getting the blued version over the stainless, I don't want to trade down again by getting fixed sights. I just hope the used one is as good as the guy says it is. I still have to ask him a few more questions about it. I know this much, it doesn't come with the case and I think he doesn't have the nipple wrench with it either. I'll have to make sure, but for the price, it's a good deal - $345.00 bucks! What do you think mec? Oh yeah, it does come with a gun sock...better than nothing I guess.

-mario.
 
You should find it very satisfactory as long as you use .457 balls or the same diameter lee conical bullet moulds. Smaller ones will definately walk forward under recoil. You might even think about getting some standard nipples (Track of the wolf?????) that will fit a regular nipple wrench. the oddball nipples on the ruger are the only real flaw in the design. Get them a little stuck and the hex or sext or w hatever shoulders round off and then the ruger wrench won't even work on them.

By the way, My Dad was an honorary citizen of Sicily. Found the papers in his navy box. At that time, there was talk about Sicily applying for Statehood. Might have done it too if the Communists had won the election.
 
Mec,

The beat thing is the guy doesn't have the nipple wrench with it so I'll have to buy one from Ruger - they're only $3.75 each, very reasonable for a wrench. Maybe they'll send me one for free when I ask for the owners manual, you never know?
If that's the only weakness in their design I'll be very happy with the Old Army. I wonder why they decided to call it "Old Army" in the first place mec? What nipples will fit the Ruger, do they make new ones especially for it or do some of the replica gun nipples fit it? The only thing that worries me is the age of the gun. As long as it was well cared for shouldn't the barrel/rifling be as good as when it was first shot? I hope so, if not maybe I should just buy the other one?

If these Rugers are built as strong as everyone says they are then it should be a good shooter, don't you think? Can you tell I'm a little worried mec? If you charged me a dollar a question you'd be rich by now! :D I'm just sick of all the bad luck I seem to have with things. I don't want it to transfer over to the Ruger I'm buying. I should get it by this next Thursday coming up, as long as I mail the Postal check off tomorrow morning. I'd love it if it came in Thursday morning, that way I won't have to miss my weekly shooting date. I try and go every Thursday and Sunday. I figure if I shoot two times a week I'll be a good shot in no time. I usually stay at the range for around eight hours or so. It's a nice place to shoot and there aren't any range nazi's breathing down your neck either. I just like the idea of shooting outdoors with the sky and the trees, makes for a much better time. Hell! two weeks ago I heard a dog barking in the distance, next thing you know a fox runs across the range...a few moments later a little old hound dog beagle mix comes running across the range about five or six seconds behind the fox. What a sight! Somethin you'd never see at an indoor range, that's for sure.

Are you serious about that Sicily thing? that's very interesting. How in the hell could Sicily ever ask to become part of the United States though? What did your father do to become an honorary citizen of Sicily? They may have done it if the Communists HADN'T won the election? Is that what you meant? When was this, before or after the war? I thought Italy went Democratic after WWII, so I guess it was before WWII when they went Fascist or Communist. Please correct me if my guess work is wrong.

-mario.
 
Not to run down your preference, but I was looking at a few at auction. Everybody has their own taste in everything, but I just find them downright ugly.

I know they're the hardest shooting, strongest BPs made, but they just don't appeal to me.

It's not a Ruger thing. I own a Super B 44 SS, 10 1/2 inch and think it is lovely, but that is a near perfect copy of a Colt 73, with many improvements.

Whether you thing it's pretty or not, show me another black powder revolver that works as well, is as accurate, and has as much potential for field use as the Ruger Old Army. They're not for looking at, they're for shooting.;) However, I like its looks a lot, too.
 
McGunner,

To each his own, as the lady said as she kissed the cow's behind.

You like the look, I don't, and ne'er the twain shall meet.

Mec, Dusty Springfield, Roll Me Over IN The Clover And DO It Again? You rotten old man. You don't look that old in your book. That's at least 50 years old!

Etymology be damned, if you are the first, anything else has to be a subset. If Sam'l Colt patented the name "revolving pistol" then any firearm that came along after would be a subset. A "Single Shot Pistol", a "Semi-Automatic Pistol", hell, a "Laser Pistol" if it gets to that. They are all one hand shooting instruments, and to declare that YOUR gun is THE pistol is ridiculous. COlt named it in his patent, and that SHOULD settle it, but of course it won't.

The fact that most other countries did not, to the best of my knowledge, have a name for any other mechanical means of firing a "pistol" may have something to do with it, though everybody everywhere did make a revolving pistol type weapon.

Aw, well, It does not really matter, you wanna call it a GUN, go right ahead.

Cheers,

George
 
I was traumitized away from the gun word in basic training at Fort Leonard Wood, Missouri, basic training in 1969! Prior to that, I used it rather promiscuously. Still, today, if it slips out, I still feel a little like I just cussed at the dinner table with my Mother and Grandmother both sitting on either side of me. I don't mind others using it, mind you, and George, it is probably the only really acceptable compromise. It's just that it makes me feel so....DIRTY.



Steve
 
I knew you were an American at heart! When you moven back home and away from all those Frenchy's! :D Hell! If I had the money I'd be right there with you - pretty french girls, good food, good wine, and you can store your black powder in your underwear if ya want! :what:

-mario.
 
If anybody is interested I have a pair of 1858 Rems, that i would trade for one Ruger, I know this is not the right place to post this,but on the for sale categorys are all modern firearms, and yall were talking about the ruger. Thanks Steve
 
Steve 499,

"This is my "pistoll" (rifle), this is my gun, this is for killing, this is for fun."

Is that what you mean? Parris Island had the same treatment for recruits who slipped up.

Try this Wiki page for an answer to pistol. as good as any.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pistol

Cheers,

George
 
You may as well throw in a third 58' if you want a Ruger. Maybe you could get a good trade on GunsAmerica.com? Most of the guys posting on there are dealers anyway. A dealer will trade quick if he thinks he can make a little bit more money off the trade. I've seen 58's and all of the BP revolvers going for more money than you can buy them new! I think George said the same thing! They probably talk people into buying them over price all of the time, talk all that Civil war crap and such. Most newbies would fall for the line fairly quick.

-mario.
 
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