Blown out casing

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  1. Blkhrt13

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    I have not seen this on a 1911. My son just bought this one in Alabama. It is a used Mitchell Arms. Seems like the internet has mixed opinion on these. Ive heard of a Glock Smile bulge but a 45 rupture?
     

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  2. DocRock

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    Factory ammo?

    That’s not a thing. There’s something wrong going on. Just the one case ? Pics of any other fired cases?
     
  3. milsurpguy

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    Hmm the gun doesn't appear to have disassembled it's self, so that's good.
    Has the feed ramp been modified, with a dremal?
     
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  4. Blkhrt13

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    Ammo came from the box it’s sitting on.
     
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    I’m waiting on him to get off the roof he is on so I can get pictures from him. We are two states apart at the moment.
     
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    I have had factory ammunition fail in the head, once. S&W Model 39, old style extractor, no modifications to the gun.

    I have heard of factory ammunition blowing out on occasion.

    It happens, fairly rare in my experience, but it happens. Bad brass sometimes seeks through.
     
  7. DocRock

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    So, pics of other fired cases and the feed ramp would aid greatly in a diagnosis. That looks like it fired out of battery and not yet chambered.
     
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    Bad brass.

    Out of battery discharge normally results in damage to the gun, at least a magazine blow-out.
     
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    Gotta agree, that looks like brittle brass. Didn't bulge or split, just blew apart.
     
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  10. Blkhrt13

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    He sent me this picture his gunsmith took. The culprit is a blind person tried to polish the back of the barrel. I don’t know who did it. But they should be punished. I told him to never buy a used gun from a pawn shop that won’t even let you rack the slide. Especially a 1911.
     

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    that thing looks like it was worked over by a metal eating Beaver.. holy heck..
     
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    Have a photo in focus? :)
     
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    Was the barrel made at the Ishevsk arsenal in 1942? :what:

    I'd recommend replacing the barrel. It will cost more than a barrel for a gunsmith to right that buggery.

    Not if they see the pic of that barrel!
     
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    That barrel looks to have been cold chiseled. If the picture accurately portrays the chamber mouth and “ramp” such as it is, it needs replacing.
     
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    Very much so. It’s new barrel time. I think he will learn from this. I hope anyway.
     
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    I would check to make sure the ramp was not altered also with a similar degree of "craftsmanship."
     
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    I’d bet money it was. I’m ganna have to drive over and put hands on it.
     
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    That barrel throating job is by far the worst I have ever seen; true cold chisel quality. There's no saving that barrel, and I too would be concerned that the frame feed ramp has been worked over in a similar fashion. Hope he got a super deal on that gun.....
     
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    I hate to say he paid 450 for it. The store he bought it from does not allow you to work the slide and he thought it was an American made 1911 for a fair price. I told him to stop shopping there. Ever. Ever again.
     
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    Before he sinks any money into a new barrel, take a close look at the frame ramp. If it has been similarly hacked, the cost of repair goes up fast. Just welding and machining the ramp is $125 at Innovative. A frame ramp insert or machining for an integral ramp barrel would be alternative approaches to a boogered up frame.
    Replacing the barrel and repairing the frame will about double his "investment."
     
  21. 460Shooter

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    I often use a claw hammer to work on my barrels too.
     
  22. barnetmill

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    Still would not hurt to look at the disconnector function. But I vote for bad brass also.
     
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    Bar-Sto barrels are superbly accurate and expensive and worth it.
     
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    I don’t know the brand but the smith my son took it too said the barrel was 250 dollars and it needs a main spring and plunger.
     
  25. Ole Joe Clark

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    Bubba usually doesn't charge much money for the great work he does. :) Especially barrel work.

    Glad no one was hurt.

    Have a blessed day,

    Leon
     
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