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Board Decides: P220 or XD-45 4"

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by JaxNovice, Sep 26, 2006.

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Which .45?

  1. XD-45 4"

    72 vote(s)
    41.9%
  2. Sig P220

    100 vote(s)
    58.1%
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  1. JaxNovice

    JaxNovice member

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    I am in the market for the a new .45 and have agonized over my last two remaining options. I dont need a whole lot of commentary (though feel free) just a tiebreaking vote. Will post pix of new purchase when I pick it up.

    Thanks!
     
  2. Euclidean

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    I assume you mean the .45 XD. I've had both. Both are very very good.

    I still have the XD.

    You'd think the Sig 220 would be thinner or easier to carry being a single stack but it's not.

    Factory magazines for the Sig 220 are ridiculous, honestly. Their cost is outrageous.

    I'd own the 220 again if I ever wanted to get back into a decocker in .45 ACP.

    If the XD45ACP had never existed I'd still have the 220.
     
  3. Marshall

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    Jax,

    The usage will primarily be?
     
  4. JaxNovice

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    Potential carry, home defense for sure, definite range gun
     
  5. Just_a_dude_with_a_gun

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    Both being quality guns, I went with the XD for 3 reasons:

    - Easier, lighter, smaller for CCW
    - Mag capacity of 13+1
    - cost of admission is easier to swallow.

    But, being a sig owner, if you have to have a sig, and want to spend the cash, that's a good one! :)
     
  6. varoadking

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    Tough...my P220 was a lemon & the few XD's I've shot have broke :scrutiny: I guess if pressed, I'd give SIG another shot :D
     
  8. Marshall

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    With carry being in there, if I went Sig, I would go with their smaller "Carry" model with a 3.9", almost 4" barrel, in your favorite flavor. You'll save a couple of ounces and save on length too. A four inch barrel still makes a good range run.

    The difficulty is, you can almost buy 2 XD-45's for that price.

    My suggestion is, buy the one you like best. Which one feels best to you in your hand? Load up both guns with full mags and see what you think. Thirteen rounds of .45ACP isn't light. It may be good for the range but it might be too heavy for you to carry and might feel awkward to you? Only you will know after you handle them.

    I have an XD-40 service model (4") and I love it. It has a different sized grip than the XD-45 though. I like the XD-45 and would probably have bought one if I didn't already have the XD-40 but, the 40 feels so much better in my hand than the 45 it has me spoiled.

    Sig makes great guns. My good friend Ala Dan will tell you they are top notch! I have read many times where he loves the Sig P220 and I gotta tell you, I am wanting one too! (I was looking at them earlier today)

    Bottom line, on this choice, I won't pick for you.

    Best of luck. :)
     
  9. Cousin Mike

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    XD's are ugly...

    ... there! I said it, since no one else will :D

    Seriously though, there's almost no choice.. My vote goes for the Sig without a second thought. Shoot one and you'll see why. Nothing against the XD - I've shot a few different XD's, and they're decent guns. They're nothing close to a Sig, though.

    It's like comparing a Mercedes to a Hyundai.

    I'll rent an XD any day of the week to play with at the range. I'd buy a Sig over almost anything if given the choice. My P220 is my favorite pistol of all - the only other gun that comes close is my other Sig (SP 2340). I also prefer DA/SA/decocker to a striker-fired system.

    Here's my thinking. Sigs are in a class of their own. I used to think they were overpriced, over-hyped, ugly things... They grow on you REALLY fast once you start reading about them, and even faster if you actually get your hands on one. If you're considering one, you're already intrigued, and you'll buy one eventually. :p

    NOW - you can buy that Sig, fall completely in love with it, and have all the pistol you'll ever need... or you can buy that XD, and eventually you'll buy the Sig ANYWAYS! :D Might as well save yourself the time and trouble, and get the Sig to begin with.

    You might think I'm biased... I am... But FWIW, I wish someone had told me about Sigs back before I bought 5 or 6 other pistols I ended up trading away or selling. If I made a Sig my first gun, I'd have saved thousands of dollars on pistols... Or, I'd have 4 times as many Sigs... Win/win situation either way.
     
  10. JaxNovice

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    Cousin Mike, I like the way you think. You remind me of my wifes logic as she shops for cars. "we are going to get a 7 series one day. why not just do it now?"

    I keep staring at pix of the p220 stainless finish and damn is a pretty firearm.
     
  11. Cousin Mike

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    Funny you mention the P220ST, I was thinking of trading my P220 in towards a P220ST.. Of course, I could always just get both, and have 2 two-toned P220's :D Already owning a P228, I'm surprised you'd even consider an XD - no offense to XD owners. :neener:

    The P220 handles .45ACP a lot better than the XD also IMO. Only thing more comfy to shoot .45 from in my experience is a custom 1911. I almost hate taking people to the range when I have my P220 with me. I never get it back until the ammo's gone. :mad: OTOH, converting people is something I get a kick out of. I took my cousin out to the range this weekend - he recently acquired his CCW permit and has a G27. He brought along a friend with a G22. They both want Sigs now. :D
     
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    I had the same delima several months ago. I ended up trading for a P220. I can't compare it to the XD only b/c I don't have one, but I really like the SIG. I do think the XD is a marvel of plastic and will have one some day.

    --usp_fan
     
  13. joneb

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    Why not a 4" 1911 mod. :confused:
     
  14. progunner1957

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    I would probably go with the XD45, because as someone else said:
    I have a SIG P220 and it is a very nice gun. The worst thing is not the cost of the gun, but the cost of the magazines - almost as bad as H&K autopistol mags, which are $50-55 each!:what: If I remember, the last P220 mags I bought were $40 or $45 each.

    The XD45 seems to be a good weapon - the XD pistols are building themselves a solid reputation. And it's always better to have 14 rounds of .45ACP than 9 rounds, even though 9 should be enough for anything short of going into battle with nothing but your autopistol.
     
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    That's cool and everything, and this probably won't make sense to anyone else, but if I'm going to have a SIG I want a classic decocker. Does that make any sense at all? No, but I guess it doesn't have to.

    Oh, one thing in the Sig's favor: a lot more armorer's around. Love my XD but I can't pretend it's as easy to get worked on as the Sig will be. Course I have two identical XDs to solve that problem, but I'm just that dedicated.:D
     
  16. Ala Dan

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    Although both are great choices, I voted where my heart lies-:uhoh:

    and that is with the SIG P220~!;) :D
     
  17. DFW1911

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    I have both: I prefer the 220, my brother the XD...our reasoning is simple, I guess, I like the feel of the 220 better (which I think makes me shoot it better :rolleyes: ), he likes the XD for the same reason(s).

    You can't go wrong either way.

    Have fun with either one :evil: (sounds like a Frat saying, doesn't it)

    DFW1911
     
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    SIG - becouse it's SIG!
    And everyone needs one SIG in their lifetime.

    (P229 .40S&W and a P220 .45ACP here)
     
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    For those that are put off by the cost of SIG factory mags, the Novak and ACT nickled 8rnd mags are good alternatives for less than $20.

    Also, one other consideration, Springfield won't sell parts to the XD line. If you want to work on your XD, you can pretty much just change the sights--everything else goes back to Springfield. Sig parts are everywhere. A couple of Sig Forum members have produced a great DVD detailing everything you'd want to know about working on the P series SIGs.

    I'm not trying to start a "my choice is better than yours" war. Just adding some information to the discussion.

    --usp_fan
     
  20. HMMurdock

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    I've shot the crap out of both and you win with either one. If you don't mind the thicker grip and bigger pricetag I suggest the Sig P220. I consider Sig and Hk the upper echelon of firearms, whereas the Glocks and XDs are just much better for the money. Personal opinion and lets not debate that here- :banghead: - I'm just saying...

    The P220 can be had in a shorter carry length and with the DAK consistant trigger pull or SAO (single action only) like a 1911. So you have many options within the P220. I am a fan of the DAKs and SAOs because I do not like DA/SA trigger pulls, I love glocks and XDs in that every trigger pull is the same.

    Sig is definately sexier between the two, but it is bigger and holds less rounds. It is just a more well-oiled combat machine in my eyes. The XD, like the Glock, is wonderful and you get more bang for your buck, but I voted on the P220 because if the SHTF and I only had time to grab one of the two, I'd go where my heart is and snag the P220.

    A guy I work with carries the XD .45 Tactical and swears by it. I've shot it and I'm impressed, but he'd mate with the thing if it had the proper organs. I like the XD and all, but I'm sticking with my Sigs...

    TRL
     
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    By the way...

    Just some advice- if for some unimaginable, insane reason, you DON'T happen to buy what the poll decides, keep it to yourself. Trust me :uhoh:


    (voted xd... closest thing with glock not being an option)
     
  22. Cousin Mike

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    Magazines can be expensive, this is true... However, the Mec-Gar mags I bought for my P220 work flawlessly, and were bought for around $20 each. If you don't want to chance it with aftermarket mags for whatever reason, you'll be spending about $39.99 for a new Sig magazine if you buy from sigarms.com. Locally they're around $49.99 for me. There are also 10-round mags available for the P220, although I don't own any yet. I haven't heard anything bad about the 10-round mags. The 8-round mags I've been told to stay away from.
     
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    Mag cost is no reason to discount the Sig 220...

    http://www.Topgunsupply.com Sig 220 mags are $29.95, and ACT/Novak 220 mags are $18.95, with $5.00 shipping whether you buy 1 or 5.
     
  24. rodinal220

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    My P220 served me well when I was on the job,it never failed,zero malfunctions.

    FYI,Mec-Gar mags are OEM for many of the big gun companies,Mec-Gar has been the OEM for SIG for many years now.I never used the zipper-seam SIG mags that came with my gun,I used Mec-Gars and had no issues with them.
     
  25. Black Majik

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    How is the P220's grip thicker when it's a single stack? :rolleyes:


    Jax,
    While both are good guns, my preference goes to the P220. I personally like the platform better, particularly that the trigger is better on the SIGs than on the XDs in general.

    Now, price is obviously an issue, of about $200 or so dollars. So, what I do recommend is a CPO P220 with a stamped slide. This is the older, "classic" generation SIGs. Most likely the trigger is already smooth, and its refurbished for many, many more years of life still. I dunno why, but the new SIGs don't interest me much, with the stainless slides, railed frames or the heavy price tag.

    Go for the $500 stamped CPO SIG, which is IMO a better built gun than the present generation. With a price so close in comparison, its hard not to go SIG.

    Good luck in your search. :)
     
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