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Discussion in 'Non-Firearm Weapons' started by KiltedClaymore, Jul 26, 2008.

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  1. KiltedClaymore

    KiltedClaymore Member

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    are they considered a concealed weapon, and do you need a ccw to wear one in your boot?
     
  2. The Tourist

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    In my neck of the woods you cannot get a CCW license for anything. Having said that, a boot knife will get you hooked up because it's obviously hidden, hence a concealed weapon.

    But here's my prejudice. I'm not an "ankle" anything. If you want the weapon, find a way to carry it where it will easily fall to hand.

    The ring of my Razel is easily seen, quite handy, and perfectly legal. There is no reason to carry it on a boot.

    (I have heard that some folks fear felons knowing they carry any implement. The thinking is that if they got caught in a robbery, the thief would kill them quickly to avoid confrontation.)
     
  3. KiltedClaymore

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    well i have a crkt m-16 in my change pocket. thats my first knife. i was just wondering about the boot knife because i've considered it a "backup"
     
  4. The Tourist

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    KC, I think the practice would get you into more trouble than it would get you out of.

    Sometimes I carry two knives. I can get to both easily.

    Besides, one of the biggest uses for personal knives is cutting food at a restaurant. Do you really want to use anything that has been in your sock?
     
  5. KiltedClaymore

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    my double edged dagger for food cutting?

    and thanks for the info. imma leave the dagger at home.
     
  6. Mongrel

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    Around here, having a double-edged anything is a no-no.

    As The Tourist pointed out, the practicality of getting to a boot knife seems remote at best. Typically I envision accessing it from a position where I'm lying on my back or have been knocked down onto my back. Too many movies perhaps?

    Also, unless you use some type of a strap to attach the sheath to your calf (ouch-circulation) you need a cowboy-boot type of footwear to clip it to or conceal it in. Now think about how high up you have to pull the cuff of your pants to get to it.

    And, I would definately think an LEO's first impression would be "criminal" if he found one on you vs. "typical" if he saw a folder clipped to a pocket.

    BTW-I have two really nice boot knives that spend there time in drawer just because of the above. I love 'em, but I just can't bring myself to chance carrying them.
     
  7. KiltedClaymore

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    8 inch combat boots
     
  8. Mongrel

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    KC-do you wear it inside the boot or outside the boot?

    Personally, I can't stand that feeling of something riding alongside of my leg in a tight (relatively) boot. That would drive me nuts.
     
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    So wait, is keeping a crkt m16-sized folder clipped to your pocket considered "concealed"? This probably differs state to state but what about for you guys?
     
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    no, because its in a pocket. dont ask me why but in AZ, anyone can carry a pocket knife in their pocket. regardless of make, model, ect. boot knifes are kinda different due to their one use is killing.
     
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    I have a couple "boot knives". Daggers (aka double edged knives) are often illegal in most states like switchblades. Played around with them a bit. I wanted to carry one on my belt or near my belt vs a boot or ankle. Not going to carry one for the reasons you mentioned. The CCW permit in my state does not give you any carry rights for a knife unlike Florida.
     
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    A boot knife is almost always concealed unless for some reason you stuff your pant's legs into your boots leaving the knife in plain sight.

    As a concealed weapon you face whatever state and local restrictions there are for carrying a concealed weapon.

    If your state only issues a concealed handgun permit then a concealed knife of any kind would not be covered by the permit.

    If your state issues a concealed weapon permit then a concealed knife MAY be covered by the permit. Knives that are illegal (e.g. daggers) in your state regardless of permit would not be covered and you could be in violation of the law if you were carrying an illegal knife.

    Or in fewer words, you need to research the law yourself and find out what it permits you to do.
     
  14. KiltedClaymore

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    well, in the wonderland free state of arizona (where everything except fireworks are legal) any weapon that is concealed is covered under CCW. and there are no laws against daggers, butterfly knives, switch blades (OTF and OTS), ect.


    i LOVE my state :D
     
  15. Tom Krein

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    KC you are very lucky! IF you have a CCW then go ahead and carry. I always thought it would be uncomfortable and hard to get to.

    I was never a big fan of boot knives until my first knife hog hunt. I found I could easily carry my U.B.C. stuck into my snake boots. It was always out of the way and very secure. It also made getting into and out of the truck very easy as I didn't have to take my gun belt off every time.

    I'm talking about a pretty good sized knife...

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    Worked good!

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    :D

    Tom
     
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  16. Mongrel

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    ahh...Tom?

    CAN'T SEE THE PICS MAN! :fire:

    Sorry...

    :D
     
  17. Tom Krein

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    How about now... sorry about that!!:cuss:

    Tom
     
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    IMHO, a lock blade pocket knife can be explained away as just about anything. I have a CRKT assisted open knife (not a full on auto or switch blade) that locks with a liner type lock and is as rigid open as a fixed blade, razor sharp spear point.

    If I carried my Gerber MK I that's has that double edge and slick clip sheath, it's difficult to explain away as anything but a silent KILLER. S'pose you need to cut something with precision that requires you guide the blade with your forefinger? With a conventional single bladed spear or even tanto point this is easy. Dagger? Lose a finger.

    I put my CRKT "voodoo" into my pocket with the clip and it's a "nonissue" yet always ready to take care of business. But carrying an obvious combat style blade and you have an "issue" before you ever even need it. Even though the FL permit is concealed "weapons" instead of concealed "pistol" I prefer to fly under most folks radars. Just my .02.
     
  19. KiltedClaymore

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    Tom, thats a awsome pig. how hard was it to get close enough?
     
  20. Tom Krein

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    Not too hard with the Dogs working on it.... :D

    Tom
     
  21. KiltedClaymore

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    aw, dogs are cheating. gotta be a man and do it mano-a-mano
     
  22. loandr.

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    A wise man......

    "aw, dogs are cheating. gotta be a man and do it mano-a-mano"

    BINGO, NOT to mention our responsibility to keep the little ones safe :evil:
    Don't let Tom fool ya he has DAMM BIG FEET ;) in FL almost ANYthing goes CCW/Blade wise, BUT Personally I stay away from ankle anything myself also, unless I plan on being seated for extended periods of time (ex. long car ride etc.) In THIS postion alone I find it useful.....Gawd I love those Krein's!

    Loandr./BoerBoelGuy
     
  23. KiltedClaymore

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    was this sarcasm?!
     
  24. loandr.

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    Absolutely NOT....We are ALL about Hand to Paw when it comes to the yard;) here at the BoerBoel Ranch :D and we take ALLL of our furbabies saftey with the utmost of seriousness...

    Loandr./BoerBoelGuy
     
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  25. KiltedClaymore

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    haha ok! nice dog too! what breed?
     
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