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Border emergency declared in New Mexico

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  1. rick_reno

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    This can't be true. I remember our President stating on 6/8/05 "I can assure the America people that we're following every lead, that we're doing everything we can to keep us protected." This MUST include securing the borders.

    http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/08/12/newmexico/index.html

    Border emergency declared in New Mexico

    Governor says area 'devastated' by human and drug smuggling

    Saturday, August 13, 2005; Posted: 2:07 a.m. EDT (06:07 GMT) New Mexico

    Manage Alerts | What Is This? (CNN) -- New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson declared a state of emergency Friday in four counties along the Mexican border that he said have been "devastated" by crimes such as the smuggling of drugs and illegal immigrants.

    The declaration said the region "has been devastated by the ravages and terror of human smuggling, drug smuggling, kidnapping, murder, destruction of property and the death of livestock. ...

    "[It] is in an extreme state of disrepair and is inadequately funded or safeguarded to protect the lives and property of New Mexican citizens."

    New Mexico shares 180 miles of border with the Mexican state of Chihuahua.

    "The situation is out of hand," Richardson said Friday night on CNN, noting that one 54-mile stretch is particularly bad.

    The Mexican government issued a statement in which it acknowledged the problems along the border, but said it continues to make consistent efforts to target them along with U.S. authorities.

    It said some of Richardson's views stem from "generalizations that do not correspond to the spirit of cooperation and understanding that are required for dealing with problems of common concern along the border."

    Richardson's declaration makes $750,000 in state emergency funds available to Dona Ana, Luna, Grant and Hidalgo counties.

    Richardson pledged an additional $1 million in assistance for the area, his office said in a news release.

    He said on CNN that the funds will be used to hire additional law enforcement personnel and pay officers overtime.

    In announcing the state of emergency, Richardson -- a Democrat who served in President Clinton's Cabinet -- criticized the "total inaction and lack of resources from the federal government and Congress" in helping protect his state's residents along the border.

    "There's very little response from the Border Patrol," he said on CNN. "They're doing a good job, but they don't have the resources."

    The governor announced the move after a helicopter and ground tour of the border near Columbus, New Mexico, the statement said.

    He said on CNN that he "saw the trails where these illegal routes take place" as well as fenced areas along the border where the fence is "literally nonexistent."

    According to Richardson's statement announcing the declaration, "Recent developments have convinced me this action is necessary -- including violence directed at law enforcement, damage to property and livestock, increased evidence of drug smuggling, and an increase in the number of undocumented immigrants."

    He called on Mexico to "bulldoze the abandoned town of Las Chepas, which is directly over the border from Columbus."

    The statement went on to say that "Las Chepas is a notorious staging and resting area for those who smuggle drugs and immigrants into the United States."

    Some of the pledged funds will be used to create a field office for the New Mexico Office of Homeland Security to focus specifically on the border.

    There will also be new efforts to protect livestock in the area near Columbus, "along a favorite path for illegal immigration where a number of livestock have been stolen and killed," the statement said.

    Richardson said he wanted residents of the four counties "to know my administration is doing everything it can to protect them."

    Alejandro Cano, secretary of industrial development for the Mexican state of Chihuahua -- which borders New Mexico -- pledged to support Richardson's efforts, the statement said.

    Richardson told CNN he met with Mexican governors several weeks ago on border security.

    "My people on my side asked me to take this step, and I've done so reluctantly," Richardson told CNN. "As governor, I have to protect the people I represent."

    He noted he is the nation's only Hispanic governor, and "we're a state that's been very good to legal migrants. ... This action, I believe, had to be taken."

    The Mexican Foreign Ministry sent Richardson a letter Friday saying it has requested that Mexican consuls in Albuquerque and El Paso, Texas, meet "as soon as possible" with New Mexico officials "to promote pertinent action by the authorities of both countries in the framework of existing institutional mechanisms."
     
  2. lostone1413

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    I voted for King George but he has done nothing but sell America down the tubes. The Constitution is dead. Anyone in either house or in the White House that won't secure the border should be tried fro treason.
     
  3. R.H. Lee

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    This looks bad for one G.W. Bush IMO, expecially coming from a hardcore leftist like Bill Richardson.
     
  4. beerslurpy

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    Are you being sarcastic? I dont know Bill Richardson's political views, but he could be doing worse things than protecting the border.
     
  5. mattman the gun fan

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    When i lived out in Arizona they would find houses with a hundred or more illegal alien in it. They would trash the place's.Illegal alien smuggleing is a big problem in arizona and texas.I knew this was gonna happen sooner or later.It will get fixed all we have to do is put 3o foot steel walls all across the border :D easy fix.
     
  6. R.H. Lee

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    If you're talking to me, no, no sarcasm. Richardson is doing exactly the right thing. The question is, why isn't Bush securing the border? Isn't that his responsibility?
     
  7. Moondoggie

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    Methinks somebody has been reading the polls and is positioning himself for a run at the White House in '08.

    Richardson has plenty of chips in the Dems poker game to be a contender for the nomination. Governers typically stand a better chance of being elected President than Senators. He doesn't have the "half of the country rabidly hates him" situation to overcome that Hillary does.

    This is a pretty gutsy move, and will impress a lot of everyday folks in the red states...me for one. Sending a big "screw you, you ineffective politically motivated hamstrung beltway bufoons" to Washington will strike a resonant chord with Middle America.

    Besides being "the right thing to do" IMHO! :D
     
  8. dasmi

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    Now if only Ahnold would do the same thing in my state of Cahlifohnia.
     
  9. Rebar

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    Yeah, that's pretty much it.

    Until he calls out the National Guard to secure the NM border, it's all just grandstanding and posturing.
     
  10. beerslurpy

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    That is a very good point. Or better yet, call out the NG to round up and deport these characters, taking into custody the property and business owners who are sheltering and employing them.
     
  11. Tropical Z

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    I still say we need guard towers with M60's or the like and the will to use them.Mexico and liberals are determined to destroy America as we know it.Wake up politicians and stop spending sssssssssooooooooo much of your time KISSING UP :banghead:
     
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  12. Silver Bullet

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    Could be worse. In Arizona, we have to control both our border with Mexico AND our border with California. :uhoh:


    :)
     
  13. Sergeant Bob

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    Bingo! I agree with you driver (Wow! Two truck drivers agreeing on something!). I think he's also doing it to make Bush look bad, although he's doing a pretty good job of that all by himself.
     
  14. 22-rimfire

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    The border issue is simmering. O'Reiley talks about it frequently on his shows. Eventually, it will come to blows after an incident and I'm afraid the incident will be some kind of terrorist attack that is traced back to a border crossing on land where significant supplies and man power are brought in. I would vote for regular army rather than National Guard. With troops, most people realize that they AREN't policemen. It might actually be pretty good duty.

    Both the Republicans and the Democrats are courting the Mexican-American vote (or any Central American). I don't know what the popular view is from their perspective on the issue. When safety becomes a signficant issue, Americans will become more vigilant on a civilian level.
     
  15. Tropical Z

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    We need at least a couple divisions down there and they should be regular Army.
     
  16. longeyes

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    The problem is certainly real and serious but Richardson is doing some political posturing, angling for some high ground for '08. Or maybe he's a stalking horse for the new and improved illegal immigration-busting Hillary.

    Can we call a spade a spade? Our neighbor to the south is a narco-terrorist state. If we keep smiling and looking the other way we are headed for an inevitable civil war in this country and/or a U.S. military expedition headed to Mexico City. It can't happen? I'm wagering it does--though not under GWB or even a Democratic successor. All of this is just one more symptom of the increasingly beleaguered condition of freedom lovers in this nation. We have a raft of enemies, among which I include Mexico. At some point, if we are serious about dealing with the radical Islamic threat we will have to attend to Syria, Iran, and Saudi Arabia, we will have to deal with Mexico, and we will have to deal with those in our own country who want us weak and dismembered. Major convulsions are going to precede the ability to handle these multiplex threats. It should be an interesting decade ahead.
     
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    Yes agreed, it appears to me a long time border resident the powers to be in this country want uneducated consumers and cheap labor, it really doesnt matter where it comes from, what we cannot outsource we will import. It really comes down to greed, the middleclass is of little importance in all this
    other then subzidizing labor for the wealthy.

    Texas is becoming the next calif. we cannot build enough schools, property
    tax will not pay for all, they must increase taxes to pay for all services for illegals while my medical insurance and property tax continue to rise.

    Mexico is in fact a bigger threat then Iraq in many ways while it may take longer the results will be the same. Those of you under 30 have a wild ride
    ahead and I sure dont see our leaders doing anything to stop it, remember
    they have the money to change countries and most would not mind doing
    so. :(
     
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    "Congress shall have power to ... provide for the common defense ... of the United States." Article I, Section 8 of the US Constitution. Considering that 90% of what the Federal Government does has nothing to do with its delegated powers and purposes, it would be nice if it did one of the few things it is actually Constitutionally duty-bound (see the preamble) and authorized to do.
     
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    Mexico is such an underrated threat. They are destroying our country, and not just the border states. Neither party cares or will do anything about it. Depressing.
     
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    "We need at least a couple of divisions down there, and they should be Regular Army".

    You betcha, AND they should be the Regular Army folks that are still in Germany 60 yrs after the end of WWII!!!

    Plus the 17,000 that are in Korea 50+ yrs after that "Police Action" ended.

    Korea was a UN function, let the UN gaurantee S Korea's sovereignty. I've got a bone to pick with S Korea since the incident of S Korean steel companies illegally "dumping" cheap steel on the US market a couple of years ago. After all, it's "US Steel" that has gauranteed their freedom for the last 50 yrs. Ingrates!!!
     
  21. MechAg94

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    I thought I heard a while back that a rather large percentage of Legal hispanic citizens agree on securing the border. I don't know how big that percentage is though.

    One way or another, every 2008 Presidential hopeful will have to have some kind of plan or ideas on the border issue. I don't think they will be able to ignore it.
     
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    Landmines, concertina wire and tiger pits would be a good start.
     
  23. Fletchette

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    Hmmm. The Constitution ALSO says, "A well Regulated Militia, being necessary for the security of a Free State, the right of the People shall not be infringed."

    Would securing the border fall under "security of a Free State..."? I think so. I would think that if the militias of New Mexico mobilized NOW under the present "state of emergency" neither the Feds or New Mexico could procecute them for anything.

    This would be different from what the Minutemen were allowed to do - simply report to the Feds when they see an illegal immigrant crossing the border - under the State of Emergency the Militia can "secure the border" - by force if necessary.

    What type of state laws does New Mexico have on this issue? I know that some states, like Texas, do not require the governor to approve of the militias' formation, just that the militias notify the governor.

    I am sure the governor did not think this through. It could be an opportunity to actually make some progress on this issue. The Feds would not be able to ignore the border if armed citizens started patrolling en masse.
     
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    The Feds do what the guy in the White House tells them to do. Is there any doubt about Bush's position on border control? If the U.S. military, under current authority, gets involved, it will be to make sure American citizens don't get in the way of the master plan. I wish I didn't believe this, but I do. Bush has already shown that what ought to be a simple and straightforward excecution of the law isn't part of his agenda.
     
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    Sorry Art-this topic just makes my blood boil!
     
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