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Border Patrol Outgunned

Discussion in 'Legal' started by Thin Black Line, Oct 18, 2006.

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  1. Thin Black Line

    Thin Black Line Member

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    I seem to recall not too long ago that the Mexican AG was complaining
    about US weapons coming into Mexico, well, now it's our turn to complain.
    Last I checked, you can't buy "automatic assault weapons, bazookas,
    grenade launchers and improvised explosive devices" off the shelf anywhere
    here....

    http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/4263968.html

     
  2. Molon Labe

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    Read this book, and your questions will be answered.
     
  3. crazed_ss

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    Stopping the flow of drugs into this country is gonna happen regardless of what type of guns the Border Patrol is armed with. Americans want drugs, so drugs come into the country.

    I'd like to see us use our military to make direct offensive strikes on the cartels and their operations... like in Clear and Present Danger. Countries like Mexico are too arrogant to allow something like that though.
     
  4. Socrates

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    BEST ANSWER IS TO LEGALIZE THE DRUGS. THAT REALLY DESTROYS THE PROFIT IN THE DRUG TRADE.

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  5. Glockfan.45

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    Yet another example for why gun control will not work like its advocates hope. Criminals get drugs from over the border. Ban weapons and they will pour in like so many banned narcotics. Honestly when are people going to wise up? LAWS DO NOT MATTER TO CRIMINALS!
     
  6. RealGun

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    Is it really the Border Patrol's jurisdiction or sole jurisdiction to deal with drug trafficking? As far as I know, they are not authorized to shoot people attempting to cross. I believe they are authorized to shoot in self defense and are armed accordingly.

    A DEA interdiction team would be a different matter altogether.

    Anybody know the facts here?
     
  7. molonlabe

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    Here is the article from 2004 for a laugh.

    Mexico blames US for porous boarders

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    MEXICO CITY (Reuters) - Mexico complained on Saturday that U.S. authorities allow Mexican drug gangs to buy arms in the United States "as if they were candy" due to lax controls of gun sales in border states.
    The Mexican attorney general's office said Mexican gangs make drug runs into the United States in light aircraft and return loaded up with weapons.

    "Unfortunately, the United States does not have adequate control of guns shops in the border area and they sell arms as if they were candy," senior prosecutor Jose Luis Santiago Vasconcelos told a news conference.

    He said the attorney general's office is working with the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives against arms trafficking.

    Mexico is particularly concerned about arms like the Barrett .50 caliber rifle. he said. The semi-automatic weapon, dubbed "The Widowmaker," can penetrate armored vehicles and aircraft.

    "The big problem is that this type of weapon does not have adequate control in the United States. The trafficking of arms from the United States to Mexico unfortunately costs a lot of lives," said Vasconcelos, head of the organized crime unit.

    A Barrett .50 caliber was among a number of assault weapons seized in a raid that captured the alleged main hit man of the infamous Arellano Felix drug gang in the border city of Tijuana on Thursday.

    The suspect, Mario Alberto Rivera, was wanted for the murder of a journalist in the city who campaigned against the drug cartels, which smuggle marijuana, cocaine and other narcotics across the border into the United States.


    Gotta get me a widowmaker.

    © Reuters 2004. All Rights Reserved.
     
  8. RealGun

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    Funny how nothing was said to support whether guns were in fact purchased in border states or whether any gun dealers in particular had been identified. It makes a good story though and sets up the argument that something draconian must be done about the problem.
     
  9. orangelo

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    At the big Houston gun show last weekend even the Class 3 dealers didn't have the kind of hardware for sale that they are talking about in this article. So the drug runner's weapons most certainly did not come from any FFL in the US.

    I HATE THE LIBERAL MEDIA. :fire:
     
  10. Axman

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    Now we know where the notion of the "armor-piercing/anit-tank/anti-aircraft .50 caliber rifle" comes from. Maybe they believe it is also a "bunker buster" and can shoot through mountains!?!?!:rolleyes:
     
  11. gezzer

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    And let Law Enforcment lose all the seizure money? Great idea however!
     
  12. SoCalShooter

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    That's for me to know and not you!
    No stats no facts nothing, I am all for a well regulated militia and arming BP units with assault rifles and machine guns, they have a hard job and its a "thin green line" on the border, legalizing drugs would solve part of the problem.
     
  13. Thin Black Line

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    I'll take guarding our border over sitting in the Green Zone in Baghdad any day...
     
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