Bought a Mossberg 500 JIC 12 ga. & a S&W 5906

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  1. dondavis3

    dondavis3 Member

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    I bought a Mossberg 500 JIC in 12 ga.

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    And 2 weeks before I bought a Police Trade in 3rd Generation S&W 5906 in 9mm.

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    I haven't shot the Mossberg yet, but I've shot the S&W and really like it - I'm not surprised as I carried it bigger brother in .45 cal on duty.

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  2. RugerMcMarlin

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    I think you will enjoy it. A lot of guys will fuss about it having a pistol grip, just shoot it yourself, and make up your own mind.:)
     
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    I won't pee on the cake, but I will say I haven't heard any positive reports of the pistol grip shotgun set up. It will be good for stowing it away. And if you can find some light loads that might help. I'll be interested in hearing what more knowledgeable people than I have to say about this.
     
  4. Andrew Wyatt

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    How big is the tube?
     
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    5906 I likey!! It's little brother 6906 I like too. Both seem to be well built shooters.
     
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    @ Andrew Wyatt - it's about 6" accross / round and 34 to 35" long.

    It has a fantastic water proof / removable lid on one end & permanently sealed on the other end.

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    @ Sky

    I've owned both through the years and both are very good shooters.

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  8. Andrew Wyatt

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    you might be able to fit a folding stock on the gun and still have it fit in the case.
     
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    @ Andrew Wyatt

    I think it would - but I want the pistol grip.

    Thanks for the suggestion though.

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    would be cool to put a full synthetic stock on one of those
     
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    Why do you want the pistol grip only stock (PGO)?
    PGO will severely limit your ability to engage a target, especially a moving one, beyond a relatively short distance.

    P.S., I once had a Mossberg 500 and was very pleased with it.
    Not fancy, but it engenders a feeling of reliability.
     
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    I have had my mossberg 500 for about 2 years and love it. It isn't the JIC but did come with a pistol grip as well as the standard stock. I have never used the pistol grip but have to admit it does look cool. I am from the old school and I am so use to using a an 870 as well as the 500 with a standard stock as well as an extended mag. I just can't get myself to go with the pistol grip. I would start out using some light loads before putting any double OO buck or slugs through it and see if the cool factor still remains.... as others mentioned I really think a folding stock would be a good option..... just my 2 cents worth from the Big Sky Country,,,, Westy39...
     
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    For God's sakes, somebody- anybody -spray paint that plastic white or something. The mossy just looks tacky like that. :barf:
     
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    Go and get a couple of boxes of 2 3/4 00 buck and a couple boxes of 2 3/4 slugs. Load um up and shoot them at a target 25 yards away. Then get back to us and let us know how you like the pistol grip.

    Just a warning, if you try and sight down the barrel don't get it to close to your face.
     
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    Guys I shoot with our local police department (I was a cop there).

    They have Remington 870 pumps in 12 g. - half are stocked and half with pistol grip.

    All the officer's (men & women) have to qualify twice a year with both.

    Neither the men or the women have problems qualifying with both.

    Officers can chose which they check out to take in their cruisers. - some chose one some the other.

    But they more often take the pistol grip shotguns than the stocked shotguns.

    Sure it kicks.

    The trick is to learn how to shoot them.

    I've shot the pistol gripped 870's literally 100's of rounds over the past 20 years .

    Sorry, but it's just not that hard if you how. IMHO

    If it bothers you - don't do it.

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    What's the qualification course they have to shoot?
     
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    All police agency's (that I'm aware of - I only worked at two) have to qualify with their duty weapons each year.

    Some departments do it once a year with a second time each year to practice - some just do it once a year.

    Our local department does it twice a year - two days of practice (not mandatory) two days to qualify, each time.

    The actual course of shooting is set by the range master and changes each year (usually).

    They shoot their AR 15's & shotguns then, as well as their duty side arms.

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    Could you find out? I'm interested to see what they stress in qualifying and just how high their bar is set if they don't have problems qualifying with a PGO shotgun.
     
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    @ Andrew Wyatt

    I don't have to go find out because I've done it with them dozens of times.

    The duty officers have to qualify with a score of 80 with their duty side arm.

    They shoot drawing from their holster :

    Shooting at turning target with x number of shots in x number of seconds from 25 yards .

    Holster - move up to 15 yard line - draw and shot x number of shots in x number of seconds

    do the same from 10 yards - then 5 yards - then they draw & shot from hip at 3 yards .

    The x number of shots in x amount of time is what changes with each range master.

    Then they shoot their AR's & shotguns from the same varying distances (nothing closer than 10 yards) - the guns held at the low ready position - raised at the turn of the target and fire as many as the range master says X number in x seconds.

    They shoot both non lethal and lethal rounds - and 00 and one slug round

    Instructors have to qualify on the same course and must score a 90.

    I hope this helps .

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    What target are they using? how long are the target exposures?
     
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    The PG shotguns are always fun to use and it's not too difficult to learn how to shoot them properly (which I'm sure you already know how to). Only problem I've seen is clay shooting since it places the shotgun at a raised angle with multiple shots. I've seen quite a few people pop themselves in the face when there are 3+ clays out. Humorous to watch, but cringeworthy nonetheless (haven't seen anyone get seriously hurt and hope I never do).

    You thought about replacing the foreend with a PG setup as well? I don't much care for that style of pump but others find it much easier to use, guess it's all preference based.

    Both of the pics look great btw, congrats on your new purchases.
     
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    "The x number of shots in x amount of time is what changes with each range master."

    The targets are standard full body targets - B27.

    As I said before each range master sets time of turn and number of shots.

    Example from 25 yards line draw and shoot 8 shots in 30 seconds.

    On AR I forgot to say that only the SWAT guys shoot those.

    & Shotgun is shot by every cruiser patrolmen.

    Example of shotgun would be:

    Stand at low ready position - at turn of target - fire 3 shots in 8 seconds.

    We do not shoot as many of the shotgun rounds as we shoot the sidearm.

    Probably 12 to 15 rounds of shotgun and 100 rounds of .40 cal.

    If they want to and it's practice (not qualifying) they can shoot several cycles.

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    I like the orange since I'd assume the "mariner" is made for keeping on a boat.

    If you want to keep the PG, do yourself a favor and get a Hogue Tamer grip. I have one on my 500 and love it! Firing the gun from chest I have no problem hitting human silhouettes at 20 yards with Federal 00BK. At home I keep Winchester PDX1 since the longest shot in my house would be under 10 yards.
     
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    I'm going to second Andrew Wyatt's recommendation for a folding stock. The tube sounds like it would fit something like a Knoxx topfolder (if it doesn't fit though, that's another story.)

    Being familiar with using PGO shotguns is a great advantage that the vast majority of people do not share. Having the stock there doesn't create any disadvantage that I can see.

    Of course, it also comes down to $$$. If you don't want to spend the money on the folding stock, and feel you don't need to spend it, I respect that decision.
     
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