Bounty Hunters - What IF?

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Is correct there have been at least a couple of cases of homeowners shooting cops serving a warrent on the wrong house and getting off in Fla
 
Sean85746 said:
If some so-called bounty hunter enters my house...and is armed...BANG BANG.
If somebody breaks into my home in the night I will not even consider that they might be stupid/insane enough to do so w/o being armed.

Bang
Bang
Bang
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I agree with IV Troop, for all of the "bounty hunters" I had contact with during my 31 years as a LEO were "wannabees". Had they tried to become REAL LEO's, they would have been fired!

The "Dog"? HAHA! What a FOOL! He looks like a "wannabee" rock star!

The most unusual bounty hunter that I encountered as a LEO was an ex-con! He had been convicted of armed robbery in New York, and had spent 10 years in prison! He was "armed", but his firearm was a replica .45 auto in a shoulder holster! That replica pistol was realistic, and had an actual 7-round magazine inserted in it....with LIVE rounds in the mag! He told me that he didn't know where to buy "dummy" .45 ACP rounds! BTW, he went to jail for "suspicion of armed robbery", since he was STILL on parole from New York AND he had a woman's nylon stocking in the front seat of his car. The nylon had been cut off and had eye holes cut into the material! I think the he thought that he was "James Bond"! HAHA!
 
I live in a suburban neighborhood that rarely sees any criminal activity. If anyone bursts into my house they are going to have some serious issues.


From what I have heard when someone uses a bail bondsmen's money to get out of jail they will usually have to sign over consent to search the houses of family members. Sometime the mother, or sister will even sign consent forms stating that the BH can search their house at any time if their loved one is skipping out.
 
sturmruger said:
From what I have heard when someone uses a bail bondsmen's money to get out of jail they will usually have to sign over consent to search the houses of family members. Sometime the mother, or sister will even sign consent forms stating that the BH can search their house at any time if their loved one is skipping out.

In that instance, I can only laugh.

"My deadbeat bro gave you permission to search my house? And You expect me to let you?"

In the second one, there is a quick fix.

"Yes, I did allow that once upon a time. That privilege is revoked. Get off my property."

Bounty Hunters: Comedy at work.
 
Yeah, I can see its cool to bash fugitive recovery as wannabees. You could say the same thing for private security. Just a bunch of idiot wannabees but can'tbees.
But they serve a very good and very needed purpose. Even Dog, who I can't stand.
I worked fugitive recover and made dang good money doing it. We worked closely with the local LEOs and had a good relationship with most of them, those who didn't harbor opinions such as those illustrated here. How else is society going to bring those to justice who chose to go the other way? Wait till a cop pulls them over for a traffic citation? I'd rather see them picked up where they hide as soon as possible. That's where the fugitive recovery comes in. Doesn't cost the tax payers anything. Sure, they make mistakes. Everyone does. Even the police make mistakes. In fact, the police make a lot of mistakes... so let's not cast stones here.

Local bondsman out here runs an operation that spans most of Utah and near by states. The guy's house is a blooming mansion. I installed a number of computer systems there and made sure they were networked... the house was amazing. No way in hell a regular cop could ever afford a house like that. Maybe I am smelling some sour grapes in this thread.

On the other hand, yeah, some of the people that do that work are just wannabees. I worked with one for a short (thankfully) time and was glad when he quit. (Helped him make that choice) The guy was true moron. But you can get the same kinda guys as sworn police officers too. I've seen quite a few morons with badges that I wouldn't trust to guard my garbage can out on the curb.

Hey, lets start a thread about Male Nurses who are just Wannabe Doctors!
:cuss:
 
George Hill said:
On the other hand, yeah, some of the people that do that work are just wannabees. I worked with one for a short (thankfully) time and was glad when he quit. (Helped him make that choice) The guy was true moron. But you can get the same kinda guys as sworn police officers too. I've seen quite a few morons with badges that I wouldn't trust to guard my garbage can out on the curb.

There are good and bad in every profession, the boy and I were in the Detroit area Sunday on our way to the Pontiac gun show, and low and behold what do we see? Well they had to be bounty hunters, they were in foreign cars dressed to look like LEO mobiles, the give away was the non Ford or GM with non state issued plates.

George Hill said:
Hey, lets start a thread about Male Nurses who are just Wannabe Doctors!
:cuss:

Better yet lets start one about the wannabe Doctors that decide if your surgery and stay in the hospital are necessary and will be covered by your insurance.:cuss: :banghead: :fire: :barf:
 
If anyone busts through my door that isn't dressed in SWAT attire w/ 4 or 5 buddies, they're getting dumped. 99% of the time plain clothed cops don't do any door breaching.


Hello all, My first post!
 
Around five or six years ago in my son's home town a snitch gave the local police a tip that a man was dealing drugs out of an apartment at a certain address. It was a quadriplex apartment building and the suspect lived on the first floor. The suspect wasn't a vagrant. He had a job in the downtown area five days a week at a blue collar semi-professional job. the police could have picked him up at his place of employment, but they chose to bust in his apartment at two-thirty in the morning. The officer who used the battering ram was shot by the suspect with a .38 caliber revolver. The police retreated and identified themselves upon which the suspect surrendered. The wounded officer died later in the day. The suspect was charged with Capital murder. At the trial, the other occupants of the quadriplex testified that they did not hear the officers identify themselves; the officers swore they did identify themselves. The jury exonerated the defendant of the capital murder charges but found him guilty of the possession with intent to sell and he received four years for possession with intent to sell. He served two and was paroled. How much pain and suffering would have been saved by arresting the man at his place of employment and then entering his apartment and searching. Since then, I haven't heard another case in that city of battering ram entry.
 
Bounty Hunters - What IF?

What if this did happen and someone chose to load the recently deceased Mr. Cop Wannabe up and dump him behind Walmart? Much like the tree falling in the forest, if no one hears it, is there a sound?

In accordance with board policy, the above is presented for discussion purposes only. Personally, I would call the local popo so the local DA could prosecute me into poverty.
 
Optical Serenity said:
Almost all states have laws to supplement the federal law providing that if a bounty hunter has reasonable means to believe his fugitive is in your residence, he can make entry.

And what if they have the wrong house?
 
Nicky Santoro said:
Bounty Hunters - What IF?

What if this did happen and someone chose to load the recently deceased Mr. Cop Wannabe up and dump him behind Walmart? Much like the tree falling in the forest, if no one hears it, is there a sound?

In accordance with board policy, the above is presented for discussion purposes only. Personally, I would call the local popo so the local DA could prosecute me into poverty.

Just as flight equals guilt, the described actions would be taken as guilt if/when this someone is caught. No story told later would be believed. There would also be a number of added charges and a guaranteed indictment.

If it is self-defense, then act like it.
 
I heard a story once. I dont know how credible it was. But two bounty hunters broke into the wrong guys house in Texas. Apparently, this man was a gun owner and opened up on the Bounty Hunters with an AR-15 and killed them. I dont remember all the details, and I apologize, but from what I remember the shooter wasnt prosecuted.
 
Good shoot.

I'll defend the need for, and leeway given to, bounty hunters.
BUT ... when a mistake on the bounty hunter's part leads to a proper indicated response from a normal homeowner (having not been provided certain relevant details in a timely manner, to wit: the guy crashing thru the door wih a gun at 2AM is not, as one may reasonably presume, a criminal), the maker of the mistake (to wit: bounty hunter invades wrong house) bears the responsibility and consequences.
 
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