Bowling for Columbine....I rented it.

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just download it for free off Kazaa

That way he loses money for making crap.

www.zeropaid.com

get kazaa lite

then go to video search and type in bowling for columbine

download it and watch it on windows media player

you get to screw michael good that way.

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That's not a bad solution, if I didn't hate the idea of sitting at a desk and watching a whole movie on a small computer monitor. Moore's already mentally ill and rich. Some video rentals by the opposition aren't gonna make him a whole lot more of either. Hell, I get the porn just to rebuke it.
 
Gabe I happen to speed too when I drive and it's Illegal

So don't think your doing anything too terrible. As long as someone doesnt make copies and sell it no one is going come after you. I personally would not waster my time to download and watch the movie, but those who want to see it go ahead, compared to speeding it's much safer to download, on a getting busted standpoint. No one get busted for downloading stuff. If your really worried about just install a personal firewall to block your ip and no one can tell who downloaded it untill someone figures out how too decipher the new 128 firewall code, which will be at least 10 years.
 
I'm not making any value judgements, just stating the fact so people reading this who may not know it realize that what is being discussed and advocated is, in fact, illegal.

That's all.

- Gabe
 
As far as the NRA, I know that it is up to all minorities to join. They have to get involved. I just think that after watching this film (If you havent yet seen it than how can you make a determination on what I am saying) that if the NRA had an Asian or black or latino figure head, it would go a long way in showing the world that gun ownership in America is alive and well and here to stay. Something the LIBS would fear and tremble.

Highly doubtful. The opposition just likes to play the race card, diversity doesn't really mean anything to them. Conservative (upper and lower case 'C') and libertarian Blacks are dissed all the time as 'Uncle Toms' for having a different opinion. If you're a racial minority and have your own opinion, don't be under the illusion you're going to score any points and give anti-gunners some kind of epiphany. They aren't going to listen. "Race traitor!" :rolleyes:
 
True, but we are talking about a filthy game of politics. Why cant we use the race card? What do we have to lose? What do we have to gain? :rolleyes:

If the NRA was as diverse and fired up as say the "Promise Keepers" as an example. That image alone would draw people from all walks. Having a fired up (not quiet conservative) mouthpiece would go a long way for us. Im a minority, I know what Im talking about.

Who says that a conservative has to be soft spoken anyway? The RKBA movement needs someone with humor. Somebody with a quik wit who can point out the hypocrisy and abuse of every group that advocates more gun control.

Trust me, minorities seeking power on the left are using something that many minorities can relate to, disfunctional reasoning. Most hispanics in my area could care less about the 2A. But put a latino mouth and face on the NRA and they will listen. They will take notice. They will want to be associated with it.

I cannot disagree more with those who think otherwise. ;)
 
Matt, how would you suggest the NRA boost diversity ? Shooting sports are definitely a cultural gap that we do not share with minorities. My love for shooting was cultivated at a very young age from a man who's love for shooting started in much the same way (from his father). I do not discriminate, I will invite ANYONE to the range with the intention of teaching safety and handling procedures. I just don't get many black participants.

We can't force people to join.

Sigh.

No, but there is a decided difference between allowing people to join and encouraging people to join. It is worth the time and trouble to reach out to minority communities for membership. There are innumerable ways to do this, and the rewards would be great.

Shooting sports are definitely a cultural gap that we do not share with minorities.

Gee, with an attitude like that, I am surprised that folks of all colors don't come racing to join you!

I am a white man, but I come from a strong "anti" family culture. No one in my family had a gun -- they're evil, after all! And yet here I am!

Why? Because a friend got me interested, and my examination of the world led me to believe that I would need to take some personal responsibility for my safety and that of my family.

The NRA needs to do more than recruit more white, rural, rifle-shootin' rednecks if it wants to succeed in changing the minds of the WHOLE country.

Things like this are a great start:

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Matt
 
Personally, I think it's very important to see, whether you pay for it or not. I have more friends and relatives who have seen that movie and bought into it than I care to count. If I had not seen it, I might have known some of the lies he told from reading things like the hardylaw website, but I would have missed a lot, and personally, I want to know what my enemies and the ignorant (and often well-meaning) masses think of me. You would be amazed at how many people, even after being shown that he completely manipulated the truth and his audience, still enthusiastically tell their friends "you have to see this movie!". Strange how people find comfort in being scared.
 
Shooting sports are definitely a cultural gap that we do not share with minorities. My love for shooting was cultivated at a very young age from a man who's love for shooting started in much the same way (from his father).

Careful with the generalizations. Organized activities maybe, but many southern folk of color continue a hunting tradition which goes back several generations.
 
"Nightwatch, what makes you think we have to start de-emphasizing crime arguments and emphasizing check-on-government arguments?" - Jeff

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This morning the NYC council had a hearing on a number of gun control measures on the table. Measures that were DOA until the shooting death of councilman Davis.
Anytime a crime is committed in this country with a gun, the government will move to take our guns. That we know right? We can also bet everything we own on future tragedy. :(

Solong as we continue to engage the gungrabbers on issues of crimes committed with guns, and not a God given freedom that over 80 million live by, a freedom that we are willing to die for and not surrender, we will lose. The argument needs to turn towards the chaos that "We the people" have in store for government. We need to start talking about armed revolution.

I had a chance to speak to council members. The following was read:


My name is Ty Benabe. I was born in NYC. My parents first came here from the island of Puerto Rico sometime in the late forties.

I am the Webmaster for the NYC Alliance for the Second Amendment. A website that was born recently in response to the efforts by some members of this city council to legislate "insurance requirements" on gun owners, which has alarmed me. When I hear that this kind of reasoning is exists in my city council, I must wonder, when will this body of legislators succeed in turning me into a criminal?

Not only is gun control a failure, but by design it is meant to infringe, discriminate and disarm Americans, usually in the aftermath of a crime. Case in point: The shooting death of councilman Davis. A shooting that was initiated not for freedom. Not for the cause of liberty, but for reasons of selfish political ambition, by a politician. The shooter in this case was shot dead. He was the criminal. And I believe it is time for this city council to admit that gun control is not only limited in what it can do, but that it is the greatest untruth in the face of determination.

The argument of reducing the cost of crime by legislating" liability insurance" against the innocent is an unconstitutional logic that could be applied one day to the minority population, requiring "liability insurance" based on the color of our skin. Our prison system is overwhelmingly occupied by minorities. Are all people of color therefore suspect of criminal behavior? Or, are only those individuals guilty of committing crimes to be singled out? The answer I am sure is very clear to all. As well as the consequence.

The law of freedom. The law of this land is carved on my heart. I was created free. And no man, no court, no legislative body can tell me otherwise. It is my hope that this city council will set an example for all Americans, and halt any further persecutions against those who in faith, try to abide by law, but are faced with the prospect of resistance because of the abuse of law and disregard for Our sacred constitution.

In closing, I have yet to know the feeling of chains upon my wrists. And if given the choice between tyranny and slavery. I would gladly give my life to the cause of liberty. Give me liberty, or give me death. END.
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Will they listen? Our will they violate my life? The outcome is up to them. :rolleyes: The issue of gun control leads to only one road. Banning Guns. If we dont draw a line in the sand, that will be their goal. It is.

People want to be free, they just dont want to die to preserve it. :mad:
 
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OK what the heck does the name 'Bowling for Columbine' mean? Do I have to see the movie to understand it; is it something incredibly clever that will give me some epiphany once I Get It? :confused:
 
OK what the heck does the name 'Bowling for Columbine' mean? Do I have to see the movie to understand it; is it something incredibly clever that will give me some epiphany once I Get It?
It's a reference to the fact that on the morning of the Columbine HS shooting, the shooters went bowling. It was their elective physical education class.
 
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