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Boycott Michael Savage!

Discussion in 'Activism Discussion and Planning' started by rd5589, Apr 10, 2009.

  1. ArmedBear

    ArmedBear Senior Elder

    Sep 8, 2005
    Pretty transparent of you.

    All you are really saying is, "I'm a liberal, I like Jon Stewart, not Glenn Beck, and I've adopted the current strategy of the American left: don't respond to anything, just bash whoever said it." That's okay, I mean, the President is doing it now, but you're in no position to call anyone else disingenuous.

    How much have you listened to Glenn Beck?

    And how much serious critique of Stewart have you read?

    Besides, nobody mentioned EITHER ONE of these guys.

    I'd be careful with those Emperor's Clothes references, there.

    And yes, Seattle has something to do with it. I know that a lot of the trendy young lefties there think they've all come to their own reasoned conclusions, but to anyone else looking in from outside, the groupthink is pretty obvious.

    Now I know I will accomplish nothing by posting this, but what the hell. It probably won't occur to you that I'm trying to get you to think.

    Jon Stewart does not do that. There's virtually no element of his work that challenges the individual to think.

    I have my biases, though. I occasionally do listen to people on the radio, because I'm headed someplace and music radio gets old really fast. Whatever they say or don't say, listening to the radio is generally something that people who have lives do because they're going from place to place. I don't watch TV at home, haven't had cable for years, and I think if anyone's seen more than an hour of cable in the past week should get a life, for his/her own good.

    Last I saw Jon Stewart with any regularity, he was a smirking sophomoric comedian. Recently, I saw more of him, and it's like he hasn't grown up at all, he just pretends to be more "serious" sometimes now.

    I'm not defending Michael Savage. I've never met him. I'm not defending what he says. Some of it, I disagree with totally, and besides, I didn't say it, he did.

    But... Your use of the word "defeat" and a list of every conservative celebrity-pundit, combined with the assertion that Jon Stewart is "different", are indicative of a deeper problem, both with a wide swath of the American chattering class, and with you specifically. I have never thought about "defeating" a pundit. That's just not the way that some of us think. Clearly, though, you do. That's what I'm trying to bring to your attention.

    Jon Stewart's line has been some variant of "I'm just a comedian!" when he's called on something. I'd say that every one of the right-leaning guys you want to "defeat" has more integrity than that.
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  2. Jim K

    Jim K Elder

    Dec 31, 2002
    People can own guns, even handguns and AWs and still want to ban them for everyone else. Just the normal "I am perfect, everbody else is scum" idea that 99% of even minor celebs have; it goes with the camera/microphone culture.

  3. jasper275

    jasper275 New Member

    Sep 23, 2008
    Boy, those who are railing against Michael Savage are displaying their ignorance proudly. Listen to him for 1-2 weeks, and if you think he's an "idiot" or a "liberal," then I'll respect your opinion.

    He's absolutely the best conservative host on radio, blowing away all the wimpy corporate hosts like Hannity (Vanity to Savage), Limbaugh (The Golfer), and everyone else. That he criticizes false conservatives makes nonlisteners believe him to be liberal.

    I await Savage every evening with relish and am devastated when he's gone. Listen and you'll be hooked forever, I'm serious.
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  4. oldFred

    oldFred New Member

    Jan 27, 2009
    Winder, GA
    It's obvious the OP doesn't know or listen to Michael Savage. If you knew his persona, you wouldn't have posted this.

    I listen to him occasionally, he baits the listeners to get reactions. You have obviously taken the bait.

    Therefore I am gonna have to RAISE THE B.S. flag on this post. Case closed.

  5. danweasel

    danweasel Active Member

    Apr 5, 2008
    I have been boycotting Dr. Wiener (his real last name. What can I say? I'm immature.) way before I heard about this.

    Actually was he named Wiener when he was a liberal? THAT would be funny.
  6. NWGunner

    NWGunner New Member

    Sep 11, 2008
    Seattle, WA
    Let's debate the merits of Savage being a RKBA advocate, not his other political positions. The reason to boycott him via THR would be a judgment on where he stands on 2A issues. Based on his previous broadcasts, I think it's fair to say that the linked commentary is simply a tool to energize his audience and cause them to examine their own views.

    That being said, I've got to stick up for Seattle here. I was born and raised in Seattle and have lived here most of my life. It would be fair to say I identify with a significant amount of planks on the conservative party platform. Not every Seattlite has the same political views - just like THR community.

    Anyone remember when Mayor Nickels had a town hall meeting about banning CCW in all Seattle Public parks/venues? The turnout against Nickels was 9-to-1 in favor of keeping current CCW laws.

    I wouldn't characterize Seattle as a bastion of conservatism, but we are not all political automatons.

    We don't have to pick sides on which talk show host is smarter/better/conservative/liberal. Let's try and re-focus on what we all hold to be important: Preserving our 2A rights and advancing the cause of gun ownership in our country.

    Again, based on what I know of Savage - he seems to be on our side. A boycott of his show and advertising is uncalled for on the basis of RKBA. Now, if you disagree with the other things he says, great. But those peripheral disagreements don't necessarily relate to the subject at hand.
  7. FiremanBob

    FiremanBob New Member

    Mar 9, 2009
    Only Savage himself ranks Savage along with Limbaugh, Levin, Beck, et al.

    He draws huge numbers but the demographics are not top-tier, and he frequently borders on lunacy. He is extremely bitter about the other talk show hosts and can't refer to any of them without insults and name-calling.
  8. jasper275

    jasper275 New Member

    Sep 23, 2008
    I get the distinct impression that many high roaders don't get the subtlety and depth of Savage. Frightening how opinions, and strong ones too, are formed based on little to no exposure to the object of the scorn.

    Without intending to sound elitist, I'd posit that the vast majority of the misinformed but highly opinioned posters have little formal education, which stresses withholding judgment until you do the research.

    Savage doesn't talk much about RTKB because it doesn't have broad appeal to his audience, he's said as much. He does own firearms and said he was thinking about having a benefit show for the NRA.

    Bordering on lunacy? Because you've only had exposure to bland, metrosexual members of the media, not the fire-breathing relic of America's virile halcyon past, Michael Savage. He's admitted as a youth being liberal, but he grew out of it.
  9. Dumptruck

    Dumptruck New Member

    Mar 15, 2008
    Jasper, I like how you make it seem as if anyone disagrees with you that they must be uneducated. Fantastic.

    Savage is the kind of guy who loves the smell of his own feces. I have listened to several of his shows and I just end up getting irritated with his side rants.

    The last episode I listened to he was requesting that the restaurants he eats at should contact the show or he wouldn't eat there again. Savage coupled that with him talking about Cuban music. :rolleyes: Very deep and thought provoking.
  10. evan price

    evan price Mentor

    Dec 7, 2005
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    Savage is TROLLING the air waves looking for someone to call him up and debate. Happens all the time in talk radio. If you get some buzz started, people will tell other people and get them listening. Then the advertisers hit their mark.

    Seriously, we're on the internet and don't understand why trolls do what they do?

    If he had a radio show that said basically, "Yup, I agree with everyone who calls in." it wouldn't be that much fun, now would it?

    By the way, only people who have an innate fear of their masculinity own guns.

    Care to debate? :D

    (For the impaired, /sarcasm)
  11. kentucky bucky

    kentucky bucky Active Member

    May 25, 2003
    Eastern Kentucky
    "Savage is ranked up there with Limbaugh among talk radio people."

    Nothing could be farther from the truth. He couldn't get Rush Limbaugh's coffee. He doesn't have a fraction of the audience. He is mearly a "Shock Jock" type of show that has to say crazy things to get attention.
  12. KevinAbbeyTech

    KevinAbbeyTech Member

    Dec 20, 2008
    This thread needs to be closed.

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