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Brady Grades the States

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  1. Kowboy

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  2. Novus Collectus

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    MD is the only state that got a full A. That is funny and sad at the same time.
    Sad because the author is absolutely right that laws like the seven day waiting period and restrictive sales on so called "assault weapons" did nothing to lower our murder rate. If anything our murder rate went up.

    It is funny because I was reading the MD code recently and the Brady campaign doesn't want kids to touch handguns for any reason, but the way I read the MD law, a 16 year old can handle the loaded house handgun, or hunt with one in public even, if they passed the hunter safety course and since there is no minimum age for taking the hunter safety course, an unlocked and loaded handgun can be left around a child of any age that passed the course.....I bet the Brady C. did not know that.
     
  3. spartan55

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    D-

    Texas got only a D-.........Well we will have to work harder next time for that F:neener:
     
  4. meef

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    ::note to self.... stay the **** out of Maryland::
     
  5. Zoogster

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    All BS. Maryland does not have as strict of guns laws as some other areas, but it makes a better poster child than those places to put on a pedestal and say is the end result of gun control. They can twist and shape thier most current rating factors to suit the location they want.

    "According to the most recent information provided by the 2005 American Community Survey of the U.S. Census Bureau -- the State of Maryland is the second most wealthy state in the United States, with a median household income of $61,592.[2]"

    Perhaps the population having a large percent of wealthy people and politicians that work in places like D.C. or new york where all the 'inner city' crowds congregate (and are not part of the Maryland crime) in that area made them pick it as the place to put on a pedastal? Maryland is essentialy segregated from what 'lower'/'working' class or ethnic 'minorities' can afford to move to. So of course this makes it the perfect candidate to point at for low crime, as less desperate people will live there to be involved in crimes.
     
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    Huh?

    Zoogster,

    Not sure where you're gettin' yourt info - but Maryland has some of the worst crime rates for violent crime in the country, and I believe is #1 among the states as far as worst murder rate.

    And there are plenty of lower middle class folk in the state, in Baltimore and parts of the state....the yuppies in Montgomery, Prince Georges, and Baltimore counties push the median income up to the number given.

    They give MD the A because of the gun laws they force upon us - not because any of those laws actually have any impact on crime.

    Michael
     
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    They wanted Maryland as a poster child for a reason. There are other states with worse laws, longer waiting times, more banned firearms, bigger hoops to jump through for permits etc.

    I won't claim to be keenly aware of current Maryland issues, but I remember awhile back it was a popular retirement or cummute from destination of wealthy people from neighboring large cities. The $61,592 median income still makes it the 2nd wealthiest state.

    The latest criteria they judge a place on can be changed to suit the destination they want to highlight.
     
  8. CountGlockula

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    I live in CA. Brady gave us an A-.:uhoh:
     
  9. Novus Collectus

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    Yes,, there are many worse states with much worse gun control laws and if it wasn't for the May Issue matter, I would say it is a decent place in spite of the irritating laws (like regulated "assault weapon", banned "assault pistol" and the seven day wait).

    Yes it is popular for commuting to DC from MD, but the wealthy are mostly from one county North of DC and the Virginia side. The upper middle and lower middle class are the rest and are also partly in the one county that is filled with the wealthy now....The retired don't commute to DC and I don't know what gave you that impression.

    Yes, MD is one of the wealthiest states by houshold income, but we also have a lot of poverty, poor and working poor. MD is pretty well off for even the poor, but for some reason we have some of the worst crime in the country as well. It has a lot to do with drugs and an unwillingness for the DAs and the courts to proecute harshly and keep the criminals in jail longer, and it has to do with our prison system isn't really geared to rehabilitate much anymore. In any case, the result is that we still have many violent criminals on the street and they know most victims are unarmed making us easy prey.

    The reasons the Brady campaign likes MD so much is because of the cosmetic gun control laws such as all handguns made after 2002 must have an internal locking device......but that has been circumvented by the state itself by having removabal gun locks allowed to be used instead (like the Omega). The Brady Campaign doesn't want to discuss that aspect when they try to tout us as their poster child. The incident of aqccidental child deaths never was that bad in MD anyway.
    The one handgun in thirty days is another one, but does not apply to "designated collectors" and anyone can be designated as a collector for free in this state.
    The loaded and unlocked handguns being accessible to kids of any age under 16 does not apply to all kids and they will ignore that aspect as well.
    The "assault pistol" ban has not influence crime at all.
    The regulating of "assault rifles" has not affected their use in crime. It was rare before and it is rare now. They love to say that cops will be killed by an AW, but in our state the last time an officer was shot and killed by a rifle of any kind was back in the 70s. They can't claim the either the AP ban, nor the AW restrictions have done anything for crime, but they try to make it look like it is a good thing we have them on the law books.
    Little do they know that someone can register a banned "assault pistol" as an AOW or SBR and still own one in MD.

    MD allows all NFA except exlplosives, unchecked FTF sales of unregulated long guns, people bringing so called AWs and handguns into the state without registering them and we do have at least some carry permits issued to some people (very hard to get one though).

    Brady just loves the concepts and ignores the practice. They are fools though because since we have some of the worst crime and I think the worst murder rate, we are the worst example of gun control laws. The laws are applied against the wrong people and they just restrict the law abiding who are less likely to commit any of the MD crime from carrying a gun and buiying one easily.
     
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    The states like California,New York and Maryland with high crime rates get As. I have no doubt they think Washington DC our murder capitol is heaven. The states with less crime and more guns get D and Fs....brilliant Sarah. Thanks again for discrediting the gun control movement.:evil:

    I will work all the harder to get Ohio in that F catagory.;) :evil: ;) :evil: ;) :D
     
  11. Don't Tread On Me

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    I am extremely proud of Florida's F+ grading.


    I will work very hard to ensure that someday, our rating drops to an F-.


    The Brady Brownshorts hate the fact that we're the most moderate diverse state, yet have better gun rights than many ultra-rightwing conservative states. Florida is proof that mainstream America rejects the extremism of the Brady's.
     
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    Yeah, cuz, like, California is sooo much safer with its gun restrictions.
     
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    I betcha we get our F here in Ohio next year. The only thing they liked about us was preemption, and we just fixed that little problem:neener:

    Josh
     
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    I take Idaho's F+ rating from that den of vipers as a sign that this state is one fit for human habitation. :)
     
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    OOOH !!! Mercy Me!!! We here in "OLE" Wyoming got the dreaded F rating. Even our neighbor to the North "Big Sky" Montana got the F rating. Well the
    only thing to do in such an unsafe place, is well, carry a pistol.:neener:
     
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    Nevada?

    I haven't looked, but . . .

    I'd have to imagine that Nevada (open carry, shall issue, state pre-emption) is somewhere in the "F" range.

    Makes a feller proud.
     
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    And the point of the document is............??????
     
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    My computer skills and my computer stink . I can't get the grades of each state to show . What grade did Massachusetts get ??? Also curious about what grades the other NewEngland states got .
    Thanks in advance for your replys .
    NEVERMIND
    I found the results by googling the Brady campaign site . MA. did not get a grade but Vermont got a D- .
     
  19. Highland Ranger

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    Looks like they did all the work for "list of place I want to live" - (D and lower)

    Thanks Brady Campaign!
     
  20. bakert

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    Here in Kentucky we keep our F rating because we're too ignorant to realize how dangerous them old guns are, or how much crime they cause people to commit. Hell, most of us except for some of the furriners that's moved in from other states or places, don't even give a big rat's behind about Sarah Brady and other such folk.:scrutiny:
     
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    Got to wondering this afternoon about the correlation between the Brady ratings and violent crime statistics so I threw this together.

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    I made a table of all 50 states and DC ranked by the number of voilent crimes committed from 2004 - 2005 and added their 2005 Brady ratings. DC wasn't officially rated, due to not being a state, but since it's violent crimes per 100,000 people eclipsed the number one state by almost two to one I thought I'd add it as well.

    The crime stats were taken from the FBI, Crime in the United States annual.
     
  22. MechAg94

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    The problem is always that violent crime is affected by current laws, law enforcement, prosecution of offenders and other things. IMHO, those affect violent crime more than legal ownership of guns. Current laws includes laws allowing self defense.
     
  23. Mr White

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    Damn! Now I'm gonna hafta move!!

    I always thought of PA as a very gun friendly state and now I learn that the best we could do is a D+??? A friggin D+!!!!! I'm ashamed to call myself a Pennsylvanian!
     
  24. Gendaito

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    I moved from NJ (A-) to OR (C-). I guess I'm making some progress!:D
     
  25. thexrayboy

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    Well I guess the only fair thing to do is to grade groups like the Bradyniks, the VPC etc. etc. on things like honesty, truth, common sense and of course willingness to adhere to the Constitution. Bet they all would get an F.
     
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