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Brass counter for reloading press

Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by Muddydogs, Feb 13, 2019.

  1. Muddydogs

    Muddydogs Member

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    I've been wanting to put a counter on my LnL, did a little googling and found a couple video's using a cheap punch counter. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01875612U/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00__o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
    It's a pretty cool little deal. Mount the sensor, stick the magnet to something and attach the wires to the LCD display.
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    I already had a hole in my bench so that's where I mounted the sensor which is a good spot since right behind the press handle is kind of dead space already. I just stuck the magnet to the side of the primer slide piece.

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    This is how I wired it up and it seems to work. The counter came with no instructions and most of the writing on the LCD display is Chinese. There's a metal bracket on the back of the display for mounting, battery compartment is under this plate. I used the plate to hold the wires and take any stress off the wire connections since I'm just setting the display on my bench.

    Most of the videos I watched on this counter mentioned that there's no off switch and the display is always on. I found that if you press the pause button and wait 30 seconds ish the display turns off, once the pause button is pressed again the display comes on displaying the number it was pause at ready to start counting again.
     
  2. Hokie_PhD

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    Very cool.
    Do you mind posting what the cost was?
    And how much effort it took to get it setup and working right?
     
  3. jmorris

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    I liked the mechanical counter on a Loadmaster . Hook it up to the chain from the powder charge . Then it only counts the actual cartridges that are being made . You Guys are fantastic at making things ! Way over my head to do !
     
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  5. Muddydogs

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    Cost was just under $13.00.

    Took maybe 5 minutes to set up. Already had a hole in the bench so I eyeballed the sensor mount and bent it 90 degrees, screwed mount into bench, inserted sensor into mount and adjusted mounting nuts so it was under 1/2" away from magnet and placed magnet on steel primer slide area. The wires were already stripped back a little so I loosened the two screws on the display, inserted wires and secured them. Heck probably took me longer to type this then it did to set it up.

    Cool thing is I can remove the one mount screw and magnet then move the counter to the Rock Chucker or even one of my Mec shotgun presses.
     
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  6. Muddydogs

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    I have one of these on my Mec Case Conditioner, works great but I have to say that the punch counter was way easier to set up. Don't need to find anything to attach a spring to and it resets with a push of a button instead of turning the knob 10 times if we want to get nitpicky.
     
  7. jmorris

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    I think the best thing about the electric ones I have done is where I can place the display. Easy to put it front and center.

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    Then again I have also done some that not only count up for the total but also count down primers too. That’s nice to know on the automated ones.

     
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  8. mjsdwash

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    That'll work, but when I kept count, I kept the primer box labels. Kept track of primers for a few years, found I averaged about 12000/year for a while. It seems like I only do 1000 or so a year, but looking at the stack of primer boxes I haven't bothered to throw away, Im about 4000/year.
     
  9. Muddydogs

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    Here is the counter on my Mec Case Conditioner along with the spent primer disposal system.
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    Stuff like this happens when I get bored, tired of making ammo or I run out of things I need to load for. Kind of like a couple weeks ago I decided I wanted to put a billiards ball on my Rock Chucker press and liked it so well I put one on the LnL as well.

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    Good thing it's almost camping and ATV time.
     
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    There is another way of doing it.
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    Hornady did it for you. A counter, Low primer alarm, primer slide, power hopper level, and case power alarm. And the good thing about it everything is out of the way the only thing that sticks out is the monitor.

    The only drawback is the price. But an air mattress is a lot cheaper than a bed. But eventually, you are going to get tired of the air mattress.

    Now, full discloser: I have never had the primer slide, powder hopper, or case power alarm go off. But it is comforting knowing that it is there.
     
  11. Muddydogs

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    We all know about the money spending ways of doing it. Some of us just don't need or want to drop the cash on the ammo plant or have the overhead room needed for the height of everything. Never understood the need for a primer alarm when the primer follower jams up the works if one lets the primers run low and even without the primer follower in place if a guy can't tell when there is no primer to be seated then he shouldn't be loading. Same with powder, if your not looking at the measure cycle while loading your not paying attention.

    I don't get why when someone posts another way of doing something most of the time being handy getting it done guys have to post how cool there set up is just because they threw a bunch of money at it. Ya your setup with 2 LnL's is cool but I just can't justify the cost for what I load and I can't justify the speed for what I load. Heck I can't shoot what I load fast enough to keep me reloading and I enjoy reloading so a little slower pace is fine with me.

    In the half a dozen or so look at what I built post over the last couple weeks there always has to be someone that shoots them down with my way is better, cooler or cheaper. It's a shame that we just can't say that cool and leave it at that or not say anything.
     
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  12. DRAINSMITH

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    First of I didn't knock you for doing something cheaper. If you notice when you came out with your cheap 3D printed case feeder I didn't have one post. The reason is that I know that everyone knows that Hornady makes a case feeder, and I didn't need to point it out. But not everyone knows that Hornady makes the Delux Control Panel and they need to know that it exists.

    Now you think I have two Ammo-Plants to be cool. Let me in on something. I have FOUR Ammo-Plants. Not to be "cool" it's because I have had two strokes and a broken back. And my left side of my body just doesn't work the way it did when I was twenty. But I find no problem pulling the handle with my right hand.

    You stated you "never understood the need fora primer alarm". Well, both Dillon and Hornady saw the need. Then you added, "same with powder, if your not looking at the measure cycle while loading your not paying attention." Well Dillon Hornady and RCBS saw a need for one.

    Now, if you think you are the only one to come up with cheap fixes you need to go to the post "What clever little things have you "invented or discovered" that you can share?". You will see that I have four suggestions on just the case feeder alone. And all fixes cost under $20.00 and require just plane tools found in any garage. Oh, three of my suggestions have been adopted by Hornady with small modifications.
     
  13. Muddydogs

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    I never said you have 2 ammo plants to be cool, I said your ammo plants are cool. A little reading comprehension goes a long way.
    Never said or thought I was the only one doing anything. Have you read the post you are referring to, its full of mines better or you don't need that comments.
    Of course Dillon, RCBS and Hornady saw a need for one, a need to make money selling them. Just because someone says you need something dosen't make it true.
     
  14. CMV

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    I'm not cool enough for a counter....I just let empty primer trays pile up & at end of run count those :) Or, more often, I know I want to run X amount, so will pull that many primers - when they're all gone, my run is finished & I have the amount of loaded rds I intended - minus any wasted primers along the way.

    I LIKE how someone posts something and others show how they go about doing it. If nothing else it's interesting, but often gives you better overall picture of what would be best for your own setup if you'd like to do it.

    I like the 8-ball handles too :) They look more comfortable. Any issue from the extra weight at end of handle?
     
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  15. jmorris

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    The empty primer boxes work unless your just sizing/depriming and trimming, or other processes where you are not priming but would like to know how many cases are ready for the next operation. Like my roll sizers.

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  16. Rule3

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    The Black 8 ball clashes, It should be a Red 3 Ball like mine:rofl:
     
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  17. Muddydogs

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    No issue with the extra weight, the billiard balls sure rotate smooth in the hand.

    I wanted a counter for the times I'm not loading, I have gotten on a kick to resize pistol brass before loading it as the seating depth stays more consistent especially with mixed brass where some has been deprimed and some hasn't. Its easy with the counter to know when I have enough brass ready to load.
     
  18. Muddydogs

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    I know but dang everyone want's $10 plus for a single ball and I found the 8 balls for $7 delivered. I was planning on green for the RCBS and Red for the LnL but my cheap side got the best of me. But then again the 8 balls match so I have that going for me, now only if I could match my socks.
     
  19. CMV

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    I didn't think about counter being useful for pre-processing stuff. Yeah, that would be helpful knowing there's X in that box already trimmed or whatever.

    I did find counting loaded rounds is real easy with my postal scale. I know 1/2 the bin I use is X amount of loaded .223 or Y amount of 9mm, so I can quickly eyeball and fill it to appx 1/2 full. Then, set to weight in grams, I know exactly how many weigh X amount. It's sensitive enough that 1 round at a time changes displayed weight. My spot checks have demonstrated it's a very accurate count as long as counting all same bullet weights. Scoop up half a bin, weigh it, add/remove a few rds as needed to get target weight number, I know I have exactly 100. Repeat. It's really fast and a lot more accurate than just filling a can & saying "there's about 1200 9mm in that 30 cal can". I store loose in cans so I'm not counting filled plastic case boxes like a lot of people can.
     
  20. Rule3

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    I put 100 primers in the tube. When it's empty I have a count.

    Unless there is a need to track number of rounds on the press so you know when to change the oil, filters and rotate something.:)

    I need a round counter for my guns, so when I sell one and some asks "how many rounds through it" :confused:I have no idea!
     
  21. alfsauve

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    I've been playing with these counters for a number of years. While a magnetic sensor is great I wanted something more precise that only activates when I've primed the round. (I sometimes miss one ;( ) I put my counter in a box and added a reset button and an "primed" light. There's also an anti-falsing circuit so that once it's been activated it won't count any more until it's reset. There's a micro switch at the top of the stroke to do the reset.
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  22. CMV

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    Just say "LNIB, only one box of ammo through it" regardless of actual # or overall condition. That's the way EVERY used gun around here gets advertised :)

    I hate that when someone asks about round count. I just say "a lot". I couldn't even guess reasonably close on any. I have a few ARs I built & a 1911 that I haven't gotten around to shooting yet - I know those are at 0. everything else.....I couldn't even tell you how many rounds on the current barrel, let alone the gun :)
     
  23. alfsauve

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    My problem was I'd put 100 primers in, but end up with more or less number of rounds.

    Okay, maybe I'm the only one this ever happens to. Maybe I'm doing it all wrong.

    But my solution was the primer light/counter. If the green light don't come on then the round isn't primed. If I run out of primers and the counter doesn't say 100 (or visa-versa) then there's a problem.
     
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    But isn’t that why we come here? To share ideas and information? Maybe learn something?
     
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