Brass is beautiful
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Fingers McGee
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Nice set BHP FAN. The Spiller & Burr is on my list of C&Bs to get.
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bubba15301
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fingers cabelas has spiller and burr revolvers for $229.99 in their 2011 shooting catalog .also dance&brothers revolvers same price.
BHP FAN
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Bubba's right, thanks to our friends at Cabela's [and Pietta] Spiller and Burrs are affordable. And don't let the brass frame fool you, they are built solid.
Fingers McGee
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Thanks guys for the heads up - I got my Cabelas catalog yesterday - There are a couple S&Bs on auction sites cheaper. Besides, I've got my eye on a couple other guns right now. If they dont pan out, then............................................................
BHP FAN
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I love my S&B's...they're like 3/4 scale Remmies!
BHP FAN
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tough to beat the classic look of a ''Confederate Colt''!
Capt. Redbeard
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Ok, how about an in depth discussion on brass frames. Rarely do I read something like this, and most posts are about the dangers of brass. What does everyone say about this??
I'm curious... and yes, I like the looks of brass
Fingers McGee
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Nice picture of the only two brass framed revolver models that were made in the south and used by the Confederate Army. And in the correct caliber of .36.
FM
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Here's a good book to have:
http://www.alibris.com/search/books/qwork/1276534/used/The Confederate Brass-Framed Colt & Whitney
and...
http://www.csarmory.org/spiller/spiller.html
http://www.alibris.com/search/books/qwork/1276534/used/The Confederate Brass-Framed Colt & Whitney
and...
http://www.csarmory.org/spiller/spiller.html
ontarget
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Love my brassers.
There's really not much to discuss 'in depth'. Brass frames have only one issue in comparison to steel ones (other than the cosmetic issue of tarnishing): they're more malleable. That is, they can be deformed easier than steel. That doesn't make them less safe or less accurate or less desirable. Like any gun, including steel framed ones, they will give years of good service if treated properly.
This comes down to using powder loads less than full chambers. No percussion revolver that I know of shoots it's best with full chambers, so using a moderate load is usually the best policy; that's even more important with a brass frame as repeated abuse with maximum loads can eventually deform the frame.
That's about it.
This comes down to using powder loads less than full chambers. No percussion revolver that I know of shoots it's best with full chambers, so using a moderate load is usually the best policy; that's even more important with a brass frame as repeated abuse with maximum loads can eventually deform the frame.
That's about it.
Fingers McGee
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Thanks for the heads up on "The Confederate Brass-Framed Colt & Whitney" book Pohill. I don't have that one.
Here's a site with a better description of the book:
http://www.broadfootpublishing.com/IndividualTitles/Confederat_ Brass_Framed_Colt_Whitney.htm
http://www.broadfootpublishing.com/IndividualTitles/Confederat_ Brass_Framed_Colt_Whitney.htm
BHP FAN
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The Cofer, the Sneider and Glassick, the Spiller and Burr, and the Griswold and Gunnison were all brassers, while the Tucker Sherrard & CO., WH Henley, and Rigdon and Ansley, Leech and Rigdon, Columbus Firearms CO., and Augusta Machine Works were all iron framed.
Fingers McGee
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The Cofer and Schneider and Glassick pistols were not bought by the Confederacy. There is no evidence that more than 50 of the S&Gs were ever made as examples used to obtain a Confederate contract (and one of the only 3 known examples is iron framed with a round barrel). The Cofer had just started to be produced for sale when Norflok fell and the plant closed. Less than 50 of the Cofer's are believd to have been made, and there was no Confederate Contract for them either.
Capt. Redbeard
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Wow! Thanks for the great mental support, I was beginning to worry about the safety of my brass frame. I keep my loads around 25-30 so hopefully, I'm safe. Again, thanks to all for the wonderful advice on all these threads.!!!
BHP FAN
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Fingers, many revolvers were carried as ''Private Purchase'' by both sides, and your numbers are actually 1/3 of the known production, see Confederate Longarms and Pistols, [Hill & Anthony] the Cofer is classed as a ''secondary Confederate revolver [see pages 273,274,275] number produced was actually approxamately 150, but you're right about the Schneider and Glassick [also classed as a secondary Confederate arm] production ceased march 15th 1862 when the factory was taken by Northern troops.
Fingers McGee
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BHPFAN, thanks for the referemce of 'Confederate Longarms & Pistols' I don't have that one. The 50 number I have is from Civil War Guns by William B Edwards. Firearms of the Confederacy by Fuller and Steuart says the number was "less than 100". Since your reference says 150, who knows what the actual number was.
There were a number of 'secondary Confederate revolvers', just as there were a number of secondary Union revolvers; all of which were from private purchases. My point was that the Spiller and Burr and Griswold and Gunnison were the only two brass framed revolvers bought and used by the Confederacy.
There were a number of 'secondary Confederate revolvers', just as there were a number of secondary Union revolvers; all of which were from private purchases. My point was that the Spiller and Burr and Griswold and Gunnison were the only two brass framed revolvers bought and used by the Confederacy.
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