BattleChimp Potemkin
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Brass Knuckles
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clemsonu0219
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They are not illegal to own...just like a butterfly knife, switchblade, or any spring-loaded knife. You just can't carry or conceal them.
JHansenAK47
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Been to California?
i cant help but wonder what the logic behind making knuckle dusters,switch blades and such things illegal :O
illegal in norway il bet
and ive got a feeling their gonna try to get rid of those "super deadly "Rambo Knives" because some guy got on the subway and cut up some people with it.
"i dont understand why you can even BUY those things RIGHT HERE IN THE CITY!?!?! :O"
*grumble grumble*
illegal in norway il bet
and ive got a feeling their gonna try to get rid of those "super deadly "Rambo Knives" because some guy got on the subway and cut up some people with it."i dont understand why you can even BUY those things RIGHT HERE IN THE CITY!?!?! :O"
*grumble grumble*
308win
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Ohio RC Sez
IANAL but I read this as you can own em don't carry em. And, the statute is pretty broad as to what is a deadly weapon; seems to me a #10 Spider would qualify if the po-po or prosecutor decided so.
Don't know what the case law says.
IANAL but I read this as you can own em don't carry em. And, the statute is pretty broad as to what is a deadly weapon; seems to me a #10 Spider would qualify if the po-po or prosecutor decided so.
Don't know what the case law says.
Crow1108
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I LOVE legalese. I hope to one day find a law that discusses the application off a Red Swingline Stapler as a weapon.
littlegator
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Don't touch my red swingline stapler.
Dutch schoultz
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good knuckle sites
Hi, There is a lot more to using brass Knuckles then meets the eye. having a good fit is important if you plan to carry then for the average male will want to get medium and if you have smaller hands taping the knuckles works for most people. For fair to poor fighters you want to get a thick pair most commonly known as fat boys they come in a few styles, these reduce the psi(pound per square inch) of force which makes it a lot harder to brake your fingers though it will do less damage. when using knuckles remember that you want to hit hard areas like forearms, shins and so on. I know if I had to go to court on a weapon charge I'd much rather it be for knuckles then a gun and your less likely to kill an attacker then with a gun or knife plus knuckles require less skill.
one real good site for info is http://www.donrearic.com and the best place to get them is http://www.kingofswords.com under knuckle buckles
I hope this is helpfull
Dutch Schoultz
Hi, There is a lot more to using brass Knuckles then meets the eye. having a good fit is important if you plan to carry then for the average male will want to get medium and if you have smaller hands taping the knuckles works for most people. For fair to poor fighters you want to get a thick pair most commonly known as fat boys they come in a few styles, these reduce the psi(pound per square inch) of force which makes it a lot harder to brake your fingers though it will do less damage. when using knuckles remember that you want to hit hard areas like forearms, shins and so on. I know if I had to go to court on a weapon charge I'd much rather it be for knuckles then a gun and your less likely to kill an attacker then with a gun or knife plus knuckles require less skill.
one real good site for info is http://www.donrearic.com and the best place to get them is http://www.kingofswords.com under knuckle buckles
I hope this is helpfull
Dutch Schoultz
RogersPrecision
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Here in Arizona, Land of the Free and Home of the Brave, a CCW Permit allows you to carry ANYTHING/ANY WEAPON you legally posess.
Yup, belt fed machinegun, grenade, switchblade etc.
Yup, belt fed machinegun, grenade, switchblade etc.
Valkman
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Mark Terrell makes Knuckles out of carbon fiber!
in 2001 me and a friend beat up a 250lb male with brassknuckles , the reason being he was beating up his nephew (our friend at the time) the cops responded and did nothing , he later beat the nephew up for calling the cops. we took street justice on him . my codefendent did 1 year of weekends in jail and i did 200 hours of community service and a $5,000 restitution.
what i learned , there are weapons that are LEGAL and put more distance. might as well get some SAP gloves , they are pretty hard to prove it wasnt your fist.
what i learned , there are weapons that are LEGAL and put more distance. might as well get some SAP gloves , they are pretty hard to prove it wasnt your fist.
RogersPrecision
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And no way am I gonna wear a 'sap-cap'.....LOL!!!;
http://www.shomer-tec.com/product/sap-cap-94.cfm
Unlike a helmet, the added weight about your head would most likely prove to be a liability.
http://www.shomer-tec.com/product/sap-cap-94.cfm
Unlike a helmet, the added weight about your head would most likely prove to be a liability.
TimboKhan
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No personal offense intended dude, but that was pretty dumb. You easily could have done enough damage to get charged with a felony, and as it is you and your pal lost time and money on the deal. I mean, I understand the motive and I don't think you necessarily did the wrong thing from the standpoint of honor, but all that really ended up happening is that he took a beating and you lost $5000.00 bucks and a good deal of time.
RogersPrecision
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TK,
Honor has no price.
Common sense though, may have eliminated the subsequent penalties.
Honor has no price.
Common sense though, may have eliminated the subsequent penalties.
Piraticalbob
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I inherited a set of knuckles that my great-grandfather owned; they're probably about 100 years old now, and appear to be nickle-plated iron or nickle-plated steel. Over the years the plating has worn and flaked off, showing rusting metal underneath. As I understand it, my great-grandfather was a "section foreman" for a railroad in Mississippi. Tough work, presumably.
wheelgunslinger
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I just reread the thread and can't believe I missed a user with the handle "Patrick Henry" posting this!:
Too funny.
Too funny.
Totally agree. Then it would be a little more serious than picking up trash on the roadside. And, you lose your RKBA.
Hello.
i made an account here just to toss my two cents in.
First, here in Indiana, there are no laws against them. They are not mentioned in any legal codes. I used them in my rough and tumble youth, but I only ever pulled them out when I was ganged up on. Using them in a fight might add charges if you are busted. Like, rather than Assault, you'd get Assault with a Deadly Weapon.
Now, I saw someone mention a maglite as a weapon. They are effective, but because of the batteries inside them, they are illegal to use as weapons. Because they are metal and have batteries in them, they are classified as a "lead pipe", and using one as a weapon is the same as "assault with a deadly weapon".
Indiana is very weird with it's laws. I could sling an AR-15 on my back and take a stroll through town and not break a single law. Wouldn't stop the police from hassling me, and it only takes 1 person to say, "He was waving it around and pointed it me!" to get it taken away, your ass thrown in jail, and actions taken to assure you won't ever own a gun again. The only weapons that are completely illegal are switchblade knices, throwing stars, and sawed off shotguns. That mean, you could belt on a 44 inch bastard sword, or strap a william wallace greatsword on your back, and be perfectly legal. Might get hauled off for mental help, but it's not illegal.
The thing I learned in all my dealings with cops(I almost became one), is that it doesn't have to be illegal for you to get in trouble for it. If you trip and fall into a cop, he can arrest you for assaulting an officer. I even know a few who would.
Cops get a bad rap like Bikers. They say 99% of biker clubs are peaceful and law abiding. But, it's the 1% you hear about on the news and TV that give all the others a bad name. Cops, likewise. 99% of them are good guys just doing their job and go home to their families at the end of the day. It's the 1% that are crooked as hell and on a power trip that you hear about and give ever man in the uniform a bad rap.
Just my 2 cents. Take it or leave it.
Nat.
i made an account here just to toss my two cents in.
First, here in Indiana, there are no laws against them. They are not mentioned in any legal codes. I used them in my rough and tumble youth, but I only ever pulled them out when I was ganged up on. Using them in a fight might add charges if you are busted. Like, rather than Assault, you'd get Assault with a Deadly Weapon.
Now, I saw someone mention a maglite as a weapon. They are effective, but because of the batteries inside them, they are illegal to use as weapons. Because they are metal and have batteries in them, they are classified as a "lead pipe", and using one as a weapon is the same as "assault with a deadly weapon".
Indiana is very weird with it's laws. I could sling an AR-15 on my back and take a stroll through town and not break a single law. Wouldn't stop the police from hassling me, and it only takes 1 person to say, "He was waving it around and pointed it me!" to get it taken away, your ass thrown in jail, and actions taken to assure you won't ever own a gun again. The only weapons that are completely illegal are switchblade knices, throwing stars, and sawed off shotguns. That mean, you could belt on a 44 inch bastard sword, or strap a william wallace greatsword on your back, and be perfectly legal. Might get hauled off for mental help, but it's not illegal.
The thing I learned in all my dealings with cops(I almost became one), is that it doesn't have to be illegal for you to get in trouble for it. If you trip and fall into a cop, he can arrest you for assaulting an officer. I even know a few who would.
Cops get a bad rap like Bikers. They say 99% of biker clubs are peaceful and law abiding. But, it's the 1% you hear about on the news and TV that give all the others a bad name. Cops, likewise. 99% of them are good guys just doing their job and go home to their families at the end of the day. It's the 1% that are crooked as hell and on a power trip that you hear about and give ever man in the uniform a bad rap.
Just my 2 cents. Take it or leave it.
Nat.
Limeyfellow
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At the shows here in NC they sell them as paperweights. You can own them, just not carry or use them legally. Not much difference from most states, that have similar restriction or make them outright illegal to own too.
maskedman504
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In Florida you get a concealed weapons permit.
Weapons defined as:
""Weapon" means any dirk, knife, metallic knuckles, slungshot, billie, tear gas gun, chemical weapon or device, or other deadly weapon except a firearm or a common pocketknife, plastic knife, or blunt-bladed table knife. "
Weapons defined as:
""Weapon" means any dirk, knife, metallic knuckles, slungshot, billie, tear gas gun, chemical weapon or device, or other deadly weapon except a firearm or a common pocketknife, plastic knife, or blunt-bladed table knife. "
PA Freedom
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Brass knuckles are dirty pool here in Pennsylvania. They are considered "prohibited offensive weapons", along with automatic knives and blackjacks/lead filled saps. I believe you can legally own these objects here, but not carry them on your person, except a LEO can carry an auto knife.
jordan1948
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I have some that are legally a belt buckle but serve the same pupose lol and as far as I know it's not illegal to OWN them in TN just to CARRY them.
P.S. I rarely use them as a belt buckle as I like to avoid confrontations with LEOs.
P.S. I rarely use them as a belt buckle as I like to avoid confrontations with LEOs.
Personally I find that "Brass Knuckles" hurt the hand when used, due to the fact that they spread your fingers apart. I like old fashion "Knuckle Dusters" they simply form a loop around your 4 fingers kinda like a D-guard bowie or a 1917 trench knife (not to be confused with the 1918 trench knife).
Just a though, you might want to look into it be for you break your hand useing "Brass Knuckles".
Just a though, you might want to look into it be for you break your hand useing "Brass Knuckles".
Colorado CCW law specifically mentions blackjacks, brass knuckles and nunchucks as illegal to carry and a FELONY, worse than getting caught carrying a concealed handgun without a permit. I know a cop whose wife got pulled over and when she reported his 'duty weapons' were in the car, the officer having a look found a spring billy. That was a big no-no, even for a police officer.
You can still OWN such items, (I have a novelty set of knuckles) but I wouldn't use them for defense.
You can still OWN such items, (I have a novelty set of knuckles) but I wouldn't use them for defense.
SeekHer
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I always thought that brass knuckles and switchblades got outlawed back in the 1930s and balisong/butterfly knives and martial arts weapons in the 1960s as an attachment to the existing law...
At least that is the act that US Customs is claiming in trying to ban A O knives...
rogerprecision--Are you positive on that state CCW law allowing switchblades and knuckles when there is a Federal law prohibiting them...I don't remember anything about them when I went for my AZ license but that was a few years ago and old age sucks at remembering things...
As far as I know, you may have them (switchblades & brass knuckles) in your home collection, as paperweights etc. but they cannot be on your person even in your home...lots of bikers got busted for them in their pockets at home during a raid, many times the only thing they could get charges with...
At least that is the act that US Customs is claiming in trying to ban A O knives...
rogerprecision--Are you positive on that state CCW law allowing switchblades and knuckles when there is a Federal law prohibiting them...I don't remember anything about them when I went for my AZ license but that was a few years ago and old age sucks at remembering things...
As far as I know, you may have them (switchblades & brass knuckles) in your home collection, as paperweights etc. but they cannot be on your person even in your home...lots of bikers got busted for them in their pockets at home during a raid, many times the only thing they could get charges with...
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